I'm curious to hear how low porn has gotten you, that 1 point where you just thought to yourself, where am I going? I've had those moments so many times...the feeling like u have no control, not feeling like a man, feeling worthless(literally), feeling disconnected from my head, feeling like you're absolutely nothing and you're a weak person... I've had those moments a few times now, I tried to take a bath 1 time when it happened and I was so lifeless and dissapointed and feeling worthless I pissed on myself in the tub out of no respect to myself, kind of a self hate act? I think that was my lowest point, just feeling worthless to the bone. And I stayed in the bath with piss in it, cause I felt dirty inside and It's how I felt, and no I don't have a piss fetish. I guess why I put myself down so much like this is cause of how I think cause during this addiction I've gotten into a relationship, still am, and once I was in it I found out porn was wrong, and then trying to get from it but realizing it wasn't as easy, and me relapsing, got me the biggest guilt one could imagine, I felt like a cheater, a regular guy, some trash player, filth...literally, so I think in comparison to a regular porn user it makes things 10 times worse... Pissing thing sounds fucked up right? But I guess when you're desperately out of control with an addiction like PORN...it's a damn shame, it's so easy to do things that are not you, since porn basically is something we all like, but that's not us from the root, since it's not a natural thing to do, but we've been thought to like it more and more over time, climaxing to it...getting to the more extreme stuff, so I guess the pissing on myself was an expression of self-hate and no respect to myself. I have also gotten to that point where as when I relapsed and realizing I did, after quite a good reboot of some time, that I felt like I was the one being raped, for actually re-lapsing, since it's really against my will, plain through, it is, but you get lurked in to it...it's surreal though. Eitherway, what has been your lowest point? I mean rock bottom... And I think, knowing all the filth we've all looked at cause of the porn the pissing thing doesn't even sound fucked up, I guess we're used to weird shit.