Why does Orgasming without fantasy not feel so good?

Discussion in 'Pornography Addiction' started by hope2overcome, Sep 27, 2016.

  1. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex

    So, I MO'd to fantasy to porn and the feeling during the climax is OOOOHHH SOOOO GOOODDDD. But, today I MO'd without fantasy but to sensation alone and it felt like I harmed myself. Nothing felt good. Maybe, the oxytocin after like 1 minute after the fact, things started to feel a little more better. But, during the climax, it did not feel good as much as with fantasy. In fact, it felt waaaayy lesss pleasurable. I remember when I first masturbated to orgasm when I was 17 yrs old and the feeling was AMAZING!!!!!! Now, not so much.

    This probably has something to do with dopamine irregularities, maybe someone can shed some light on this. And, is giving up orgasms for a long time gonna return me back to baseline?

    What the fuck?
  2. RebornAgain

    RebornAgain Beating my addiction one day at a time.. Staff Member

    It's because you've wired your brain to porn fantasy. Real life sensation with no fantasy doesn't give you the same dopamine chemical release so it doesn't feel as good.

    Several guys during their reboots have improved in that area.
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  3. Wabi-sabi

    Wabi-sabi Imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete

    I know I'm a cold showers, character-building runs and No Arousal guy - I've turned into some kind of Victorian gentleman ;) - but it's the fantasy that really lets the chemicals fly around in your brain. In reality, you orgasm just to put an end to it, so you can go to sleep or get something done.

    As far as your brain is concerned, watching eye-lid movies is no different to surfing for porn. As I see it, fantasy keeps the porn pathways open, making your reboot longer and more painful.

    In terms of returning to baseline, it's about quitting fantasy and ogling chicks rather than rationing orgasms. So find a friend to help you knock a few out. . .
  4. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex

    Scary as fuck now the reboot just got fucking harder with too many fucking moving parts to account for.
    1.) No Porn
    2.) No Masturbation
    3.) No Orgasm
    4.) No fantasy
    5.) NO peeking at escort ads
    6.) No compulsive sex fantasies because that leads to 1-5.

    Fingers crossed and fucking gotta fucking do this. Fuck!
  5. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex

    Last night I MO'd twice just to silence the fucking voices. I gave it due to the uncomfortable feeling of not doing it. This is a deadly symptom.

    As far as ogling real girls go, it triggers porn pathways if I let the ogling transfer into fantasy. In fact, I realize now why the fuck I have no fucking desire to even chat with a girl despite her looking like a goddess and interested in me. In one case a major celebrity I met on set of a major tv show. I just couldn't find any desire for her. Fuck my life. Fuck this shit. How did I ever get this fucked up.
  6. Mik2

    Mik2 Aka NwaltRed

    I haven't really had issues with fantasies myself, without porn the fantasies gradually revert back to normal.
    Now I just fantasize about general nudity of the last woman I spent some intimate time with.

    Porn overloads my brain, fantasy not so much.
    Of course I take steps to make mo more fun. Step 1) Apply Condom to allow full release without making a mess, Step 2) Apply Hitachi Wand to base of penis topside, Step 3) Enjoy!
    Cuts the whole process in half every time, I barely even have time to fantasize.

    Of course excessive mo can be bad as well, I've got it down to 2-3 times a week, and my sensitivity with the last woman was through the roof.
  7. RebornAgain

    RebornAgain Beating my addiction one day at a time.. Staff Member

    Don't beat yourself up over it man. It's tough. But that's why the porn and porn fantasy orgasm feels better than the plain "sensation" orgasm.

    Our brains are so used to that large dopamine release.

    Escort ads used to get me all the time. Try to stay away from one thing at a time. Don't focus on everything or you'll drive yourself crazy.

    Don't worry about real girls and checking out real life girls.

    Try to keep the porn and porn scene fantasies to a minimum. Baby steps.
  8. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex

    How did you get out of the escort ads thing? The same way as porn? How do you feel now if you were shown an escort ad?

    Thanks for the advice.

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