Hello fellow rebooters, I am creating this thread about a specific issue. I am sure you will agree with me that we are still in the experimental step of figuring out the real effects of porn on libido and the way out of PIED and related problems through rebooting. The recovery forums are a laboratory about a lot of things related to porn and rebooting. I have been rebooting for 179 days. I follow the guidelines from YBOP, and spend a lot of time here and on Reboot Nation to read how things are going for men rebooting right now and to read the advices from fellow rebooters. I think by following YBOP’s guidelines, we have the foundations for a clean reboot. But I feel we are still using a pretty old model. This book was written a few years ago, and I believe things have changed a bit ever since. A lot of us need more than 6-12 months to recover, and many guys seem to need to go hard mode for a while in order to heal. You get the point: we need some sort of new guide for how to reboot. We are not the same generation than the one for whom YPOB was written. We are close to it, but most of us are a little more fucked up by the addiction than our predecessors. Younger guys, because they started very young with high speed internet porn. Older guys too, because they have been using it for a quite a while (15-20 and even more years). On YBOP, there is an important focus on rewiring. But many users today are following the ´no arousal’ method, because they think we have to stay away from sex too, and not only from P and M. There are also guys (including me) who have sex but avoid orgasming. I would be very interested in having some sort of guide for the new generation of rebooters. As I said, we somehow have all the basic info we need through YBOP and the forums, but there is a lack of information about how to deal with your reboot when you have started very young on high speed internet porn, or if you have been dealing with PIED for 10-15 or 20 years. For most of us, a 90 day reboot won’t be enough. Especially if we keep having sex or masturbating without porn. YBOP says that you have to decide on your own what works for yourself. Gary Wilson also said that the duration of reboots have increase a lot in the last years. I guess that sums up what we know so far about what we have to do in order to heal from PIED and related problems. So I am creating this thread with the hope of collecting data about guys who went a long time rebooting. At least 6 months without P, hopefully without M. Or about guys who have been rebooting for even longer than that. And I am talking about rebooters who cured PIED and also guys who haven’t yet. With that I would hope to be able to understand more precisely what seem to be the best ways to reboot. Is rewiring the key, or is it the no arousal way? Or a mix of the two? And what about having sex without orgasming (which is what I am doing), can it actually help to recover from PIED? I have read a lot of success stories from YBOP and have found only 10 or 15 (from severe cases who took more than 90 days to heal) in which I could find this kind of data. Though really often, the process of the rebooter is not really well described (how many days without P, without M, without O, without sex, and other things they have changed in their lives). Most of all, I would like to know what really worked for guys who healed and what doesn’t seem to work for guys who are still not recovered after rebooting for a while. I have some sort of understanding about all this, thanks to the many accounts I have read in the last months. But I am sure some of you will agree that it would be helpful to have more specific and actual data on all of this. I will finish this post with an inquiry for guys who successfully rebooted. It would be very helpful for guys who are still in the process of rebooting to hear what you have to say about how you did it, and what you think really helped you to heal. If you can, come back on the forum and share advice. Same thing for guys who are not yet recovered after a few years: what have you tried, what doesn’t seem to work, and what mistakes have you done that future rebooters could avoid doing? Especially for guys in a relationship, it can be pretty difficult to know what’s best for a proper reboot. Should we try to rewire, or should we avoid sex for a while? Or a mix of the two? Feel free to bring your inputs on this subject. I am not sure what I am talking about is actually reasonable, but I know we don’t have enough data yet to have a clear idea of the whole process of rebooting. It could be very helpful to try to actualize the guidelines we have on rebooting.