Too Late to the Party?

Discussion in 'Ages 40+' started by Saville, May 15, 2016.

  1. That's beautiful, sir. I think it was you, or someone else here who reminded me to abstain from PMO for my health, not for others or the shame of it. This idea falls in line with that. True desire is the desire to live. We spend a lot of time trying to ignore death. We PMO, we fuck, we work, get promoted, and hope that one day we can retire and enjoy life. What if we just started enjoying each moment? Fulfill the desire daily instead of putting it off and focusing on distraction? Shit. That's helpful. I hope I can retain some sense of this.

    You're getting me interested in that book. After hearing the similarities to the Doidge book I read, I thought, "I probably don't need to read it." Yet, The Brain That Changes Itself was mostly historic stories and research and work presented to the reader. There wasn't a whole lot of ways to "practice" or help yourself.
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  2. Outsider.

    Outsider. Turning Simple Disciplines Into Massive Success

    Good news! So I'll be completely cured in 907 days :p
    Countdown started ;)
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  3. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member

    Nope! Your already healed. You just have to inform the brain( yours that is ) of that fact. Every day, every day !:cool:
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  4. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    Thank you for all your replies, my friends. :)

    On April 9th I said I was going to try and go two weeks without cumming - I went 12. During that time I was rather affectionate with my wife, even when she was being a bitch. lol We had lots of hugs, lots of kisses. I just let myself enjoy simple touch. Yesterday she announced that it was the day for us to make love. I wasn't even feeling horny, not at all. But, I figured "don't pass it up!" I also decided that I was just going to let the simple touch be enough and not worry about boners and cumming. As soon as I entered her I felt like I was going to lose my load. She has complained in the past that it takes me too long, which always kind of put pressure on me to "perform." She would rather just give me a hand-job and get on with her day. Anyway, yesterday I had an enormous O and it was after only a few strokes. Because, like Bobo, I had retained my energy, I was way more tuned-in, more in the present. I didn't have to fantasize. Well, briefly my mind went there, but I brought myself back into my body and kicked that fantasy to the curb. Normally after sex I have the chaser effect so bad I want to fuck the world. Today, I just feel good. After only two weeks my body wants more of that stored up energy and is forgoing the cheap shit. Kool! :cool:
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  5. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member

    How cool! I am so glad you tried. The next thing to try is to hold back the O which is the " homerun derby!" The abstinence of ejaculation will give you more energy, will allow your body to absorb more energy again and again. A added benefit if you chose to see it as so is that this allows the woman to concentrate on her own pleasure and orgasm as much as she wants. In my case Heather has wild orgasms over and over. Its called ejaculation control. You will be able to do it as you accrue more energy and you concentrate on not cumming guess what happens? Wife is like WTF dude. You don't lose boner! Isn't that amazing the exact opposite of what western sex experts tell you! I had sex with Heather last nite and I allowed myself to cum. She was well she said " omg your'e like a out of control fire hose, I am full of so much cum! I am soaked!" Thing is I figured it close to right because energy is still apparent and I can still feel the powerful effects. Rock- on Saville!:D She called me at lunch today and giggled that cum was still running out of her. This is not to say I am superman it simply means energy storage is very important. I am still a novice at this but I will get better, look out Heather or whomever!:eek::p:D:D
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  6. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    It may be harder for me to hold back, as I don't have sex as often as you do. My wife, being over 60, simply doesn't want to have sex that often. If my wife had a choice between cleaning and having sex she would no doubt choose the former. o_O She does enjoy our romps somewhat, but when we rumple the sheets together it is more out of duty than desire that she does so. If I had a sexual lioness, as you do, then holding back would make sense. Anyway, I'll see how it all goes.

    After saying above that I had no chaser-effect I found later on in the evening I was raging to cum. But, knowing as I do that it is useless to fap I found other diversions. I'm interested to see how a year clean of fapping will affect my psyche. I went about 7 months during the first year of my rebooting, but somehow thought that the odd wank wasn't a bad idea. Well, for me, it was the worst idea.

    I mentioned my sinuses were bad. Bobo, you offered good advice about omega 3 and 6. However, I came across a guy who swore by using iodine while irrigating his sinuses. Well, fuck me, it worked like a charm. It's unpleasant, highly so, but after doing consecutive days my sinuses are getting rid of all sorts of slime. Now that's sexy! :D
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  7. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member

    Yes, I understand about the situation with the wife. I wish for you that you can hold back so you can amass energy. Sex is one thing but ejaculation control has much benefit for males with energy and well being as I have said before. You know best. Yes, good way to describe Heather " sexual lioness" Ha! She was a mess this am hung over and dragging! I said " I know what will make you feel better I will eat your pussy !" She screamed " omg are you fucking crazy!" Hahaha! Shes at work now texted me that she can hardly stay awake, asked me if we can go to bed early!:p Yup! :DNever heard of sinus iodine treatment can you explain it for me ?
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  8. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    You use one of the netti pots or bottles. Put a packet of the salt/baking soda solution in it and then add 10 drops of iodine. The guy suggested Lugol's iodine. Make sure the salt has dissolved first before putting the iodine in. Give it a shake and squeeze the contents of the nose, one nostril at a time. It's very important to use distilled water so that we don't have any bacteria go up there from the tap.
  9. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member

    Thank you Ive heard of Lugol's before in cancer treatments,and thyroid treatments. I don't use tap water, I use alkaline. Hmm--- very interesting!
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  10. Are we going to be featured in a made-for-TV movie about our wife with 2 families? ;) My spouse hates cleaning, so it would be a tough call for her, but she doesn't have much of a sex drive. She thinks the PMO is a result of her being less than, and I have to always remind her that I've been doing this since age 12, way before we met. People hear and think what they want to.

    I mention that I've had this habit a very long time, but in the last 5 years, struggling with depression, I imagine it got worse. I know exactly what you're saying here. Straight up addiction. One fap and in 3 days time I'm back to forgetting where the day went and seeing a women's boot in an advertisement (minus the woman) and getting triggered.

    This winter I just tried the salt water rinse, as recommended by a pharmacist. I still haven't worked the courage to use the netti pot.
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  11. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    LOL'ing! :D

    I don't like the netti pot, I prefer the squeeze bottle. There's nothing to it. The important thing is to use distilled water so that no bacteria goes up your nose. Most tap water would be fine, especially when boiled, but I don't take the chance.

    April 22nd was my third year anniversary of being off PMO. I missed the date, somehow. Not that it means anything really. My new goal is to be off MO for one year and then the rest of my life.

    I don't really have much to say. School is bullshit, that's for sure. We take beautiful children and turn them into prisoners, killing their curiosity and joy for learning. The medical industrial complex is bullshit. It is, for the most part, directed by big Pharma, which is just a euphemism for Mafia. There are people who have fucked with the Pharmia and lost their lives. They make the NRA look like fucking sissies. The PC shitbags suck, too. They are run by left-wing feminazis who want all men put in their places, which if they had their way would be some kind of pen with their balls cut off. This would suit many of the kitty-licking lesbozos, because the world would be perfect once the bull-dikes are in charge. Get rid of men and then get pretender men to be in charge. :rolleyes: You know who else sucks hard? Anyone who uses the term "science" to support an argument. People, who wouldn't know science if it hit them in the face with a cum-filled hammer, or understand real science even if it was a pair of panties filled with the pussy juice of a thousand porn stars, keep bringing it up to support points of view they have no fucking clue about! I would rather hang out with flat-earthers than academics, because at least their subjective experience feel truthful. Academics on the other hand are just parroting what they've learned at skewl because without their edumacation they don't have real lives, which of course they don't, anyway. Why can't things be simple now like when the local preacher, who put the fear of God into everyone, and taught us about right and wrong, was found sucking cocks in the community bathroom? :eek::p
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  12. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member

    Well my brother, I think you said it all and quite correctly. The older you get the more you realize you have been lied to at every turn and on every level. The" God" of this world is the "Father of Lies!"--- now isn't that amazing!
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  13. Libertad

    Libertad Well-Known Member

    I was a bit hesitant to post this because of my nice guy Syndrom, but to post it is part of my growth and so here it is.
    The feelings you have when someone uses the term science, I have when someone, like it is so common nowadays, uses the term nazi or compares someone with Hitler. The Knowledge most have about Hitler and members of the NSDAP is from Schools you call bullshit yourself and from fake media, fake News and Hollyweird who want to make us believe that a Nazi is a bald, stupid, cruel man full of Tattoos and hate, . I was able to talk to a few who lived back than, members of the party, men who had no reason to lie to me because of their age and they all were retired and what they told me, combined with a few documentaries like the TGSNT one and "Europe the last battle" and others made me Question what I was tought in history class. I know that this is a very hot topic, but recently there was an old women, Ursula Haverbeck, drawn into Prison because she said her opinion about the camps because her husband was an officer in one of the camps. There is deffinitly something fishy about that if they have to drow an old women of nearly 90 years into Prison because she says what she felt was right. We have been lied to in so many ways. Whenever I do for a few days the Meditation and become calm within, I seem to get closer to myself and the truth. I really think more and more that the truth lays within and gets revealed to us when the time is Right for us. Like the saying the teacher appears when the Student is Ready. The forced teachings like in the concentration camps we call School or college go against our nature and curiosity and often against the truth because the Knowledge they teach was mostly not revealed to the teachers and he did not experience it himself, he only learned and repeates and teaches it like a parrot. Like you said, at least a flat earther thinks from all angles about what he is talking about, even he may be wrong in his conclusionso_O, he is real and pasionate and not a shell. Of Course there are also teachers who are passionate about what they teach and really understand their teachings themselfes like often for example in mathematics and Physics.
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  14. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    I'm glad you voiced your opinion. :) It's important to say what's in our heads and also not be afraid of issues that are topical. I think the #metoo movement is a crock of shit. But, most women, including my daughters, think it is important. I get that men can be dick heads and worse, but those men will do that anyway. And, I'm willing to talk about the issue and I definitely want to hear what my daughters think about the issue. What I see mostly is that they are swept up in the rhetoric. It doesn't matter whether you are talking about abortion, gun control, vaccines, education, climate change, transgenderism, or #metoo, there is absolutely no dialogue. We all have to keep our mouths shut for fear of offending someone. Since when did everyone get so fucking fragile? I've been wrong about many things in my life. I'm sure I'm still wrong about many things. The difference is now I'm not afraid to just say what I think. And, I only say what I think when I've actually thought a lot about it. On some issues I'm a conservative, while on others I would be aligned with the Green party.

    Obviously the concentration camps were evil places, but democracy is about allowing people to say whatever they want. Many years ago I was in Germany, when it was West Germany. I met a couple of people who had fought on the front lines and they didn't know anything about the Nazis. They were too busy fighting a losing battle and watching their own families get bombed. The Allies firebombed the shit out of Dresden, even after they knew they had won the war. Kurt Vonnegut Jr.'s book "Slaughter House Five" reveals just how awful it was. But, let's put an old lady in jail for having a different opinion.

    The wife actually wanted to have sex today. WTF! :eek: I rammed her good and used no fantasy. :)
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  15. Libertad

    Libertad Well-Known Member

    I was reading your post with a very serious face, because I am quiet passionate About the Topic and when I came to this part were you suddenly changed the topic:
    I had to LOL and my seriousness went away. Well done for not using Fantasy and for ramming her good. :)
    Have a good week.
  16. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member

    I think the previous quote says it all! PERIOD!!!!!
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  17. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    LOL Yeah, I do too. When one is getting punnani most things don't feel that important. I know I'm not going to change culture or how society is going. Mostly I am apolitical and don't give a shit one way or another. I'm on the journey without a path. :) A lot of people see that as fence sitting, but I think when we're on the fence we have a better view of what's going on, on either side. :D

    Oh, and I when I say slammed I mean fucking hammered my hips into her. Her senior ass was fucking loving it. Yeah, I'm bragging a bit, but it's fun to brag sometimes. :cool:
  18. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member

    Ain't it though! I know when I pull Heather's hips above bed and she cries out as I slam her and she cums I feel like the king of the mountain! Bragging is ok sometimes a matter of fact who says you have to be humble and retrospective! Fuck that ! " Ooh you feel like somebody when you overpower someone else -- shame on you !" Fuck you it's not overpowering they like it its what they have procreation for dummy!
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  19. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    I wrote on @Bobo 's journal how I'd listened to a radio program about toxic masculinity. Wtf! I say I listened, but I actually switched the garbage off after five minutes. It was the same tired stuff. Men are inherently violent and so they must continually appeal to their feminine side so that their inner-ogre doesn't jump out and start raping grannies in the street. It the same bull they pass off at universities saying that there is a rape culture. There is NO rape culture. This is an invention of the feminazis who would be perfectly happy if all universities and colleges were only women, with female professors. They forget of course that they were the ones pushing for dorms to be co-ed. Camille Paglia, a woman whom I admire, said that if you put young men and women together, who are in their sexual primes, and then mix in alcohol and drugs, then you're going to get a lot of fucking. You're also going to get a lot of regret. Duh! And, duh that there are animals out there who prey on women, but saying that there is a rape culture tars every man with an emasculating brush.

    I see a lot of men here who still can't stand up to their woman. I know what that's like, because just three years ago I couldn't either. This isn't about being an alpha male. It's about being a male human who claims his birthright. Being kind and compassionate with ourselves is something that is thrown around a lot on this board. Well, what does that look like? It looks like a man who own's his own journey. Someone who doesn't ask permission to breathe. Yes, at the beginning it is going to make you feel badly, because you (we) have been used to being the good little husband, the guy who doesn't make waves. And, this isn't about making waves, anyway. It's about allowing ourselves to be ourselves.

    When my wife and I started having sex again she would sometimes say "why don't you just use your hand tonight?" This was her way of trying to reassert control in the relationship. I would always reply "then what use are you? When we got married we didn't make vows to be celibate and use our hands for gratification." After three years I would like to say that she doesn't complain, anymore, but she does. She's programmed to make a big deal out of it. So, I'm a pig for wanting something natural, but she's somehow a saint, and in her rights, to refuse me a basic human need? Uhm, I don't think so. My wife now knows it is her job to take care of me. This means she must spread her legs on a regular basis so that I can cum inside her.

    Does the above sound frightening to a "nice" guy? Yes, it does; it did to me. I was terrified of taking charge of my own needs. But, I guess I was more terrified of staying stuck. I was fucking miserable. I really hated my life. So, I gave it the old college try. Wow, it didn't damage me or fuck things up worse. I mean, how much worse can a relationship get if you aren't having sex - if you're afraid to reach out? When we realize that we are PMO addicts and that neurons that fire together, wire together, then we must also realize that this is our moment. Yes, there are moments when we must stand up and be counted. Waiting for the "right" moment is and illusion and represents "same old, same old.

    What defines recovery is action! Healing oneself is following a protocol that involves doing something different with ones life. But, it is action on all fronts. It isn't just working out more, dieting, or writing in your journal. What I've learned here on YBR over the past three years is that I'm preaching to the choir. Most people simply don't want to get better...or they would. Words from me, some anonymous internet dude will not sway anyone. I know, I've tried.

    There are lots of men on here who are smarter than me, but they are just stuck on repeat. Why is that? It's because they want to be stuck. It doesn't take intelligence to break free of our bonds, it takes a little bit of courage, and a lot of stick-to-it-ness.

    The pressure on men are fucking huge these days. We are considered toxic. We are considered entitled. Establishing ourselves as independent beings is not going to be easy, because it requires a rebirth. The alternative, though, imo, is a slow and unbearable death.
  20. titan_transcendence

    titan_transcendence Well-Known Member

    Saville, another great post from you! We need more men everywhere who are not afraid to speak up about men issues. What you wrote rings so much truth about many things that are wrong in today's feminized society.

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