Too Late to the Party?

Discussion in 'Ages 40+' started by Saville, May 15, 2016.

  1. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    Awesome stuff, Bobo. Amazing that you recovered from your stroke, but not surprising given the strength of your character.

    The chapter I was reading last night was about lasers. Low-intensity laser therapy is apparently the bomb. Of course, in my little neck of the woods no one is doing it, because my town sucks! There are only a few doctors who use low-intensity laser therapy in North America; apparently it is huge in Russia, where much of the initial research was done. The guy he mentions in the book is a Dr. Kahn who has a clinic in Toronto. Obviously nothing is a panacea for all ills, but there is so much more out there than the medical industrial complex. What I like about the book is it's all backed up by trials and the science is definitely there.

    One amazing this is that even though we know a lot about the brain, we still have no idea what thoughts really are. I guess it gets back to the age old question: who and what are we?

    My wife was talking about having some couples over for dinner and to play some games. I don't really like games, which is odd, because I loved them as a kid. I sometimes wonder if my fear of failure is wrapped up in simple board games. I'm rather good at some games, so I don't know why the hesitancy over playing them. I'm definitely a social person, but my wife is a full-on socialite. She LOVES having people over, going to parties, playing games, etc. Some of it is because she loves the attention. She is an extrovert with most definite narcissistic tendencies. Her father was a narcissist. Oh, and so was my mom. I've mentioned before how it seems I literally married my mother. Oh, I'm getting a boner just thinking about it. :eek: (that's meant to be a joke, btw) :D Yes, so games. I think it's OK not to like games so long as that is not an indication that it's just simply a bit of depression. The jury is still out on this one. I know that PMO made me look forward only to PMO and everything else was an intrusion.

    I'm almost 3 years clean from PMO, but it doesn't seem like any kind of milestone. The first year felt epic, but after that you realize it's just life going on as it should. Part of my mantra over these years has been: move slowly. I still adhere to that, especially when I'm doing a task that before was boring to me. I easily built up walls (and still do) about getting certain shit done. Moving slowly has really helped in this regard. It's like everything becomes a meditation, an opportunity to not think, to just be.

    I hate doing my taxes. I know that I am not that organized and so doing my taxes requires me to look for things, like receipts and statements. I'm not organized in that way because I think taxes are stupid and are designed to keep people stuck. They are created by little minds. However, being disorganized is a state of my life and so I can't really blame taxes, per se. It's this kind of convoluted thinking that used to keep me from even filing my taxes...oh, until the tax man caught up with. lol So, slowing down allows me to shut off of my brain, for the most part, and quietly look for things, rake things, wash things, etc.

    After reading parts of Doidge's book I am formulating a new intervention for myself and that is to do some things quickly. Going one pace all the time has been good, but it isn't helping rev up other parts of my engine (brain). The guy who had Parkinson's found that fast walking was the most beneficial. In fact, he found that just simply exercising did not allow the brain to make new connections. He had to walk fast, all the while paying close attention to how he was walking. It sounds like a lot of effort for a guy who just likes to amble when he's out stretching the legs. So, I'm going to find areas of my life where I can ratchet up the speed. A life should have different tempos, just like music; this is my new, not very well formulated mantra. :)

    I was a bit sad that Doofus left. He's a good guy and struggling mightily on a few different fronts. At first I blamed myself a little, because I did press him somewhat about his drinking and about what he was revealing to his therapist. But, you know what, I'm not in charge of him. I'm just here doing my best and hoping to be as healthy as I can. I realize that I'm not responsible for the health of anyone else, only myself. Maybe he, and others who've left, have found healthier outlets for their issues - I truly hope that's the case.

    OK, time for my cold shower so I can really wake up and face the day! :cool:
     
  2. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    Thanks, bro'!

    My knees are feeling a bit better since I began getting up from a seated position more quickly. Before I got up slowly, using my arms, and I always felt some sort of pain. It has been draining. But, since reading the book I've been talking about I'm seeing if I can get the brain firing in a different way. Early results are good. Now I don't use my arms, I just simply stand up as quickly as I can. I run up stairs now, which interestingly does not induce any pain. I've been walking more. I walk quickly, stretching out my legs further than I used to and swinging my arms more. Like I say, early days...but, feeling hopeful.

    I've had a lot of sinus issues over the past few months and it's rather wearing me down. I've started flushing the sinus with saline and am hoping this will help. I have a pet theory that inflammation of our sinuses leads to low-level depression. Hmm, how do I rewire the brain so that it doesn't keep my mucous membranes inflamed? I'm sure there's a way!

    I feel horny 24/7 lately. Wife gave me a bj yesterday morning which was awesome! :D But, I think I'm going to try and go with out cumming for the next two weeks. I'm actually a bit bored with banging the wife and I've noticed my brain is leaping toward fantasy. It is crazy to feel horny, but to not feel that pumped about sex with the wife. Before I would have thought that I need to tap someone new, but I know that's folly. Again, it's all about the neuroplasticity baby. :cool:
     
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  3. MissingSelfCompassion

    MissingSelfCompassion Active Member

    I love this idea about moving slowly, being mindful. I think it's probably important in recovery. This is where we're observing ourselves and motivations instead of living in "the trance," as Tara Brach calls it in her book Radical Acceptance. Your thought about changing your mantra to moving more quickly almost seems like a natural progression to this outside observer. You've observed yourself in several situations and understand those underlying motivators better. So, you can comfortably move quicker in those areas. The stigma that held you back has lost its power! Well done, brother.
     
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  4. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    I think we all are programmed this way. This kind of thinking is why there is little intimacy in the life of a PMO addict and in society in general. We waste so much creative energy on thinking about sex and trying to have it, whether that is with a real person or with PMO.

    This was something that just happen to me, something I realized in the early days of recovery. It was a game changer.

    This brought tears to my eyes. Thank you, MSC. Having someone echo back to me that I'm doing a good job means a lot!
     
  5. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    Still reading the Doidge book. One chapter is dedicated to a device called PoNs. It a device that is inserted into the mouth and lies flat on the tongue. It's job is to use electrical current over the surface of the tongue, which in turn excites neurons in the brain. The tongue is absolutely cholk-full of nerve fibres and they talk to the brain rather nicely. Amazing results have been seen using this device. People with brain injuries and MS have gone into the lab with walkers and come out walking normally. One guy who lost his voice completely due to MS regained it in a matter of 20 minutes. The brain is plastic and the PoNs device quiets the chatter of misfiring neurons which allows the brain to rewire. Most people had sessions where they would have the device in their mouth six times a day for 20 minutes. There's WAY more to it than that, obviously, so this is just a rather weak summary of it all.

    This got me thinking about the penis. :eek: Well, when am I not thinking about my penis? :oops: The penis is also an organ that can be seen outside the body and it is also sensitive to stimulation. No, I'm not thinking of using an electric device on my penis...hmm, that might be fun.o_O With the PoNs, most people found that for changes to be permanent, they had to use it every day for up to 2 1/2 years. People who got tired of using it after four months found that the gains that had taken place began to regress. On average, it took the 2 1/2 years for the brain to accept what was happening as the new normal. Hmmmm! This means that for P addicts it is realistic to expect recovery to take that long, providing there are no slips along the way.

    So, while we can learn from our slips, we have to realize that they do set us back, at least imo they do. In 7 days I will be 3 years P-free. Woo Hoo, right?! No, because I've actually wanked quite often over this time. I've gone long stretches with no fapping and it is a habit that is much decreased, but the fact that I must face is I actually need another 2 1/2 years free of fapping to have my brain fully accept the changes. I think it's been two weeks since I hustled the muscle so I suppose I can subtract that. :rolleyes: I've made gains, I've rescued my relationship, and I've become sexual again, but I've really cheated myself from fully embracing my life. In other words I still have one foot firmly in the past. Time to let that mother fucker go.

    I actually find all this rather exciting. Also, taking a cue from what @Bobo 's been talking about regarding sex without ejaculation I've come/cum up with a theory. A man needs to feel sexually alive on a number of fronts. For instance, yesterday my wife and I kissed deeply. I immediately found that arousing. Immediately I thought "let's fuck!" However, I just enjoyed the moment and enjoyed the pulsing in my penis. This is storing up the energy that Bobo talked about. So, we can have sex without shooting our load, but we can also have many intimate moments where we feel our sexuality coursing through our bodies (like with kissing and hugs) and not insert our penis into the woman's honey pot. In fact, we need this, just like we need to constantly top up our vitamins. Going for years without love and sex from a woman is like having emotional/sexual scurvy and rickets.

    This doesn't mean that men with wives can go out and flirt and get their sex vitamins from someone other than their wives, because that's just an extension of PMO; it goes right to our fantasy centers. But, this is a call, I hope, to you men who are without anyone to up your game. It's also a call to us with a SO to not fucking fap and to worry less about cumming and more about building up our sexual health. So, guys without a woman: it is critical that you find someone with whom you can build up your reserves with and keep topping them up. Yes, we can take vitamins from a bottle, but these will never be the same as the natural ones.
     
  6. Gil79

    Gil79 Seize the day

    So familiar. It is as if we have just never learned what to do with sexual arousal. It is a thing you don't talk about. So you think it is normal to just get it out again in a dissapointing spasm, while there's actually a way (as it seems) to cultivate that sexual energy as a part of a normal, complete healthy functioning of your body.
     
  7. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    Thanks for posting, Gil.

    Last night while getting to the end of "How the Brain Heals Itself" I came across the the phrase libido scire. Well, I'm not sure if it was exactly that, because I can't remember whether the word was scire (to know) or a conjugation of that. Anyway, I do remember that it meant "know desire." It doesn't mean it in a sexual sense, but rather knowing desire for one's life. Our word for wanting to have sex is libido. The internet/media is filled with talk about our libidos. How we've lost them, how we might get them back, etc. Of course, libido on this forum is the opposite of the flatline. We want to feel more sexual, instead of just that other weird feeling that is anti-libido that makes us just want to cum with our hand. I think where a word comes from is important. In English we think of libido as all or nothing, but in Latin it had a broader meaning. I'm explaining this clumsily, but it really struck me how what our real desire is, is to have desire for life. To feel passion for doing. A reasonably well-rounded person doesn't just want to fuck, he wants to create.

    The book talks a lot about misfiring neurons creating noise within our brains. I have a very noisy brain and I find it hard to concentrate on things. This would surprise people, as outwardly I'm rather "successful." Almost every time someone is talking to me I have my own chatting going on. I say to myself "concentrate," but then I start thinking about concentrating. This noise means our brains are in flight and fight mode. Our sympathetic nervous system can't turn on and so we are stuck always fighting ourselves. I think this is one of the reason I like booze so much. It shuts off some of the noise. There are various strategies outlined in the book for ridding oneself of this noise. One is the use of sounds played through headphones that mimic what a baby would hear inside the womb of its mother. Of course, finding a place that does this isn't always easy and I believe they are rather expensive. Another method is using Feldenkrais, a way of moving that helps take us back to a time when we were just learning to crawl. I've been checking out youtube videos and so far I like it. Reading the book has really opened me up to so many things...it's given me hope. The neuroplastic model of the brain is where it's at.

    As has been said so many times here: neurons that wire together, fire together! The more I think on that the more profound it is.

    My weight loss has plateaued, but I'm not worried about it. I'm still off sugar and booze. I'm also off sex at the moment, though I did not make a conscious effort to do so. I'm sure the wife and I will bump dee bump soon, but I'm honestly not that fussed about it. I'm feeling more creative in my life and less like I only have one thing that keeps me afloat. A good place to be, I think.
     
  8. MissingSelfCompassion

    MissingSelfCompassion Active Member

    That's beautiful, sir. I think it was you, or someone else here who reminded me to abstain from PMO for my health, not for others or the shame of it. This idea falls in line with that. True desire is the desire to live. We spend a lot of time trying to ignore death. We PMO, we fuck, we work, get promoted, and hope that one day we can retire and enjoy life. What if we just started enjoying each moment? Fulfill the desire daily instead of putting it off and focusing on distraction? Shit. That's helpful. I hope I can retain some sense of this.

    You're getting me interested in that book. After hearing the similarities to the Doidge book I read, I thought, "I probably don't need to read it." Yet, The Brain That Changes Itself was mostly historic stories and research and work presented to the reader. There wasn't a whole lot of ways to "practice" or help yourself.
     
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  9. Outsider.

    Outsider. Turning Simple Disciplines Into Massive Success

    Good news! So I'll be completely cured in 907 days :p
    Countdown started ;)
     
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  10. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    Thank you for all your replies, my friends. :)

    On April 9th I said I was going to try and go two weeks without cumming - I went 12. During that time I was rather affectionate with my wife, even when she was being a bitch. lol We had lots of hugs, lots of kisses. I just let myself enjoy simple touch. Yesterday she announced that it was the day for us to make love. I wasn't even feeling horny, not at all. But, I figured "don't pass it up!" I also decided that I was just going to let the simple touch be enough and not worry about boners and cumming. As soon as I entered her I felt like I was going to lose my load. She has complained in the past that it takes me too long, which always kind of put pressure on me to "perform." She would rather just give me a hand-job and get on with her day. Anyway, yesterday I had an enormous O and it was after only a few strokes. Because, like Bobo, I had retained my energy, I was way more tuned-in, more in the present. I didn't have to fantasize. Well, briefly my mind went there, but I brought myself back into my body and kicked that fantasy to the curb. Normally after sex I have the chaser effect so bad I want to fuck the world. Today, I just feel good. After only two weeks my body wants more of that stored up energy and is forgoing the cheap shit. Kool! :cool:
     
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  11. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    It may be harder for me to hold back, as I don't have sex as often as you do. My wife, being over 60, simply doesn't want to have sex that often. If my wife had a choice between cleaning and having sex she would no doubt choose the former. o_O She does enjoy our romps somewhat, but when we rumple the sheets together it is more out of duty than desire that she does so. If I had a sexual lioness, as you do, then holding back would make sense. Anyway, I'll see how it all goes.

    After saying above that I had no chaser-effect I found later on in the evening I was raging to cum. But, knowing as I do that it is useless to fap I found other diversions. I'm interested to see how a year clean of fapping will affect my psyche. I went about 7 months during the first year of my rebooting, but somehow thought that the odd wank wasn't a bad idea. Well, for me, it was the worst idea.

    I mentioned my sinuses were bad. Bobo, you offered good advice about omega 3 and 6. However, I came across a guy who swore by using iodine while irrigating his sinuses. Well, fuck me, it worked like a charm. It's unpleasant, highly so, but after doing consecutive days my sinuses are getting rid of all sorts of slime. Now that's sexy! :D
     
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  12. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    You use one of the netti pots or bottles. Put a packet of the salt/baking soda solution in it and then add 10 drops of iodine. The guy suggested Lugol's iodine. Make sure the salt has dissolved first before putting the iodine in. Give it a shake and squeeze the contents of the nose, one nostril at a time. It's very important to use distilled water so that we don't have any bacteria go up there from the tap.
     
  13. MissingSelfCompassion

    MissingSelfCompassion Active Member

    Are we going to be featured in a made-for-TV movie about our wife with 2 families? ;) My spouse hates cleaning, so it would be a tough call for her, but she doesn't have much of a sex drive. She thinks the PMO is a result of her being less than, and I have to always remind her that I've been doing this since age 12, way before we met. People hear and think what they want to.

    I mention that I've had this habit a very long time, but in the last 5 years, struggling with depression, I imagine it got worse. I know exactly what you're saying here. Straight up addiction. One fap and in 3 days time I'm back to forgetting where the day went and seeing a women's boot in an advertisement (minus the woman) and getting triggered.

    This winter I just tried the salt water rinse, as recommended by a pharmacist. I still haven't worked the courage to use the netti pot.
     
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  14. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    LOL'ing! :D

    I don't like the netti pot, I prefer the squeeze bottle. There's nothing to it. The important thing is to use distilled water so that no bacteria goes up your nose. Most tap water would be fine, especially when boiled, but I don't take the chance.

    April 22nd was my third year anniversary of being off PMO. I missed the date, somehow. Not that it means anything really. My new goal is to be off MO for one year and then the rest of my life.

    I don't really have much to say. School is bullshit, that's for sure. We take beautiful children and turn them into prisoners, killing their curiosity and joy for learning. The medical industrial complex is bullshit. It is, for the most part, directed by big Pharma, which is just a euphemism for Mafia. There are people who have fucked with the Pharmia and lost their lives. They make the NRA look like fucking sissies. The PC shitbags suck, too. They are run by left-wing feminazis who want all men put in their places, which if they had their way would be some kind of pen with their balls cut off. This would suit many of the kitty-licking lesbozos, because the world would be perfect once the bull-dikes are in charge. Get rid of men and then get pretender men to be in charge. :rolleyes: You know who else sucks hard? Anyone who uses the term "science" to support an argument. People, who wouldn't know science if it hit them in the face with a cum-filled hammer, or understand real science even if it was a pair of panties filled with the pussy juice of a thousand porn stars, keep bringing it up to support points of view they have no fucking clue about! I would rather hang out with flat-earthers than academics, because at least their subjective experience feel truthful. Academics on the other hand are just parroting what they've learned at skewl because without their edumacation they don't have real lives, which of course they don't, anyway. Why can't things be simple now like when the local preacher, who put the fear of God into everyone, and taught us about right and wrong, was found sucking cocks in the community bathroom? :eek::p
     
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  15. Libertad

    Libertad Well-Known Member

    I was a bit hesitant to post this because of my nice guy Syndrom, but to post it is part of my growth and so here it is.
    The feelings you have when someone uses the term science, I have when someone, like it is so common nowadays, uses the term nazi or compares someone with Hitler. The Knowledge most have about Hitler and members of the NSDAP is from Schools you call bullshit yourself and from fake media, fake News and Hollyweird who want to make us believe that a Nazi is a bald, stupid, cruel man full of Tattoos and hate, . I was able to talk to a few who lived back than, members of the party, men who had no reason to lie to me because of their age and they all were retired and what they told me, combined with a few documentaries like the TGSNT one and "Europe the last battle" and others made me Question what I was tought in history class. I know that this is a very hot topic, but recently there was an old women, Ursula Haverbeck, drawn into Prison because she said her opinion about the camps because her husband was an officer in one of the camps. There is deffinitly something fishy about that if they have to drow an old women of nearly 90 years into Prison because she says what she felt was right. We have been lied to in so many ways. Whenever I do for a few days the Meditation and become calm within, I seem to get closer to myself and the truth. I really think more and more that the truth lays within and gets revealed to us when the time is Right for us. Like the saying the teacher appears when the Student is Ready. The forced teachings like in the concentration camps we call School or college go against our nature and curiosity and often against the truth because the Knowledge they teach was mostly not revealed to the teachers and he did not experience it himself, he only learned and repeates and teaches it like a parrot. Like you said, at least a flat earther thinks from all angles about what he is talking about, even he may be wrong in his conclusionso_O, he is real and pasionate and not a shell. Of Course there are also teachers who are passionate about what they teach and really understand their teachings themselfes like often for example in mathematics and Physics.
     
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  16. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    I'm glad you voiced your opinion. :) It's important to say what's in our heads and also not be afraid of issues that are topical. I think the #metoo movement is a crock of shit. But, most women, including my daughters, think it is important. I get that men can be dick heads and worse, but those men will do that anyway. And, I'm willing to talk about the issue and I definitely want to hear what my daughters think about the issue. What I see mostly is that they are swept up in the rhetoric. It doesn't matter whether you are talking about abortion, gun control, vaccines, education, climate change, transgenderism, or #metoo, there is absolutely no dialogue. We all have to keep our mouths shut for fear of offending someone. Since when did everyone get so fucking fragile? I've been wrong about many things in my life. I'm sure I'm still wrong about many things. The difference is now I'm not afraid to just say what I think. And, I only say what I think when I've actually thought a lot about it. On some issues I'm a conservative, while on others I would be aligned with the Green party.

    Obviously the concentration camps were evil places, but democracy is about allowing people to say whatever they want. Many years ago I was in Germany, when it was West Germany. I met a couple of people who had fought on the front lines and they didn't know anything about the Nazis. They were too busy fighting a losing battle and watching their own families get bombed. The Allies firebombed the shit out of Dresden, even after they knew they had won the war. Kurt Vonnegut Jr.'s book "Slaughter House Five" reveals just how awful it was. But, let's put an old lady in jail for having a different opinion.

    The wife actually wanted to have sex today. WTF! :eek: I rammed her good and used no fantasy. :)
     
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  17. Libertad

    Libertad Well-Known Member

    I was reading your post with a very serious face, because I am quiet passionate About the Topic and when I came to this part were you suddenly changed the topic:
    I had to LOL and my seriousness went away. Well done for not using Fantasy and for ramming her good. :)
    Have a good week.
     
  18. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    LOL Yeah, I do too. When one is getting punnani most things don't feel that important. I know I'm not going to change culture or how society is going. Mostly I am apolitical and don't give a shit one way or another. I'm on the journey without a path. :) A lot of people see that as fence sitting, but I think when we're on the fence we have a better view of what's going on, on either side. :D

    Oh, and I when I say slammed I mean fucking hammered my hips into her. Her senior ass was fucking loving it. Yeah, I'm bragging a bit, but it's fun to brag sometimes. :cool:
     
  19. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    I wrote on @Bobo 's journal how I'd listened to a radio program about toxic masculinity. Wtf! I say I listened, but I actually switched the garbage off after five minutes. It was the same tired stuff. Men are inherently violent and so they must continually appeal to their feminine side so that their inner-ogre doesn't jump out and start raping grannies in the street. It the same bull they pass off at universities saying that there is a rape culture. There is NO rape culture. This is an invention of the feminazis who would be perfectly happy if all universities and colleges were only women, with female professors. They forget of course that they were the ones pushing for dorms to be co-ed. Camille Paglia, a woman whom I admire, said that if you put young men and women together, who are in their sexual primes, and then mix in alcohol and drugs, then you're going to get a lot of fucking. You're also going to get a lot of regret. Duh! And, duh that there are animals out there who prey on women, but saying that there is a rape culture tars every man with an emasculating brush.

    I see a lot of men here who still can't stand up to their woman. I know what that's like, because just three years ago I couldn't either. This isn't about being an alpha male. It's about being a male human who claims his birthright. Being kind and compassionate with ourselves is something that is thrown around a lot on this board. Well, what does that look like? It looks like a man who own's his own journey. Someone who doesn't ask permission to breathe. Yes, at the beginning it is going to make you feel badly, because you (we) have been used to being the good little husband, the guy who doesn't make waves. And, this isn't about making waves, anyway. It's about allowing ourselves to be ourselves.

    When my wife and I started having sex again she would sometimes say "why don't you just use your hand tonight?" This was her way of trying to reassert control in the relationship. I would always reply "then what use are you? When we got married we didn't make vows to be celibate and use our hands for gratification." After three years I would like to say that she doesn't complain, anymore, but she does. She's programmed to make a big deal out of it. So, I'm a pig for wanting something natural, but she's somehow a saint, and in her rights, to refuse me a basic human need? Uhm, I don't think so. My wife now knows it is her job to take care of me. This means she must spread her legs on a regular basis so that I can cum inside her.

    Does the above sound frightening to a "nice" guy? Yes, it does; it did to me. I was terrified of taking charge of my own needs. But, I guess I was more terrified of staying stuck. I was fucking miserable. I really hated my life. So, I gave it the old college try. Wow, it didn't damage me or fuck things up worse. I mean, how much worse can a relationship get if you aren't having sex - if you're afraid to reach out? When we realize that we are PMO addicts and that neurons that fire together, wire together, then we must also realize that this is our moment. Yes, there are moments when we must stand up and be counted. Waiting for the "right" moment is and illusion and represents "same old, same old.

    What defines recovery is action! Healing oneself is following a protocol that involves doing something different with ones life. But, it is action on all fronts. It isn't just working out more, dieting, or writing in your journal. What I've learned here on YBR over the past three years is that I'm preaching to the choir. Most people simply don't want to get better...or they would. Words from me, some anonymous internet dude will not sway anyone. I know, I've tried.

    There are lots of men on here who are smarter than me, but they are just stuck on repeat. Why is that? It's because they want to be stuck. It doesn't take intelligence to break free of our bonds, it takes a little bit of courage, and a lot of stick-to-it-ness.

    The pressure on men are fucking huge these days. We are considered toxic. We are considered entitled. Establishing ourselves as independent beings is not going to be easy, because it requires a rebirth. The alternative, though, imo, is a slow and unbearable death.
     
  20. titan_transcendence

    titan_transcendence Well-Known Member

    Saville, another great post from you! We need more men everywhere who are not afraid to speak up about men issues. What you wrote rings so much truth about many things that are wrong in today's feminized society.
     

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