Thanks, Tonym. Last night I talked myself into MO'ing and even considered doing it with P. Thankfully I kept away from the computer. I am still concerned about MO'ing, though. I know for some people it's not an issue, but for me it's really something I have to get serious about. This afternoon my wife and I had sex for the fourth time since I quit P. After no sex for two years this is incredible. However, because I MO'ed yesterday, I felt depressed after we made love. I could feel the funk coming on me almost immediately after O'ing. The rest of the day I was irritable and tired. In terms of penetration things were much better. I was able to fully penetrate her, and though it wasn't 100% comfortable I could tell she was enjoying it. Like the other 3 times she finished me off with her hand. I'm hoping it becomes comfortable enough for her soon so that I can finish naturally inside her. Still, a short time ago I was wondering if I (we) would ever have sex again. 8) I'm pretty happy with my progress, but I have a long way to go, and I know without vigilance I could backslide in seconds.