The Real Problem...

Discussion in 'Internet Addiction' started by geeknoid, May 22, 2014.

  1. leannfit

    leannfit New Member

    This is a great thread, I still dont know what the "real problem" is?

    As for internet/tv/food/guns, bad or good is all about how you use it
    I stay in touch with friends/family and people I merely know via facebook, and I get a lot out of it.
    <Mostly since I post a lot about nutrition, etc there(and here I think).
    On facebook, I joined a meth(plus other drugs) recovery group..I've never used illegal drugs, but i know people who have and I wanted to see what they thought about stuff/be a fly on the wall, since I have a problem with PMO and food...

    I wish I had an outlet to talk to real people. I lost my job a few months ago, I'm not in school anymore and I have no friends to see or hang out with, my coma took my school/social network from me)
    I joined a Tramatiic brain injury group, (cause thats what I have) but I'm not fucked up and those people had memory/cognitive issues, it didnt help me

    My last GF was a drug addict/nympho, and I'm just really lost about what to I have small goals, like my PMO-free and fitness goals

    so what is the real problem?
  2. leannfit

    leannfit New Member

    HA HA I watched the 1st 10-15 seconds ofthat video
    who acts that way online?
    can't focus? what the heck?
    You know, I spend most of my time on line playing chess, Hella focus and concentration enhancer

    I don't watch videos usually because they are too slow.. nothing to do with attention, but every read "news" on the web. Much better than watching a video, because you can go at your own pace and even go back or jump ahead when needed to.
    I also got a BS in biology and rarely went to class, because reading the book has all the info I need.
    People PMO for the same reason they overeat...the brain makes it FUN via Dopamine.

    using the internet is like using a car, it can be dangerous,just use it properly

    OH, Duh

    Nice work on going so long without looking at P
    that's good work, a real model your system works, keep at it
  3. yearofchange

    yearofchange Your actions matter.

    @leannnfit Well although that's easy for someone to say, to just use it properly and in moderate amounts, it doesn't necessarily it's that easy for everybody. I know from my own experience that I am more prone to binging on video games and internet than my friend, for example. In these cases, I feel like you gotta do what you gotta do, even if that means actively limiting your usage as opposed to passively telling yourself to use it less.
  4. leannfit

    leannfit New Member

    hey man, I am in total understanding of why someone wants/needs to limit internet. My point to give a alternative to his universal, when the universals was, "I know that facebook is bad".

    This was my point and why I said, "Nice work on going so long without looking at P
    that's good work, a real model your system works, keep at it"

    cause this guy is doing a kick-ass job and that's all that counts, that he solves his problem, not that he makes universals that apply to everyone.
  5. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest


    This video is essence of the book. Yes the book has more details on science and references behind internet addiction and its effects on brain and functioning. But I think most people will get an overall idea by the video.
  6. leannfit

    leannfit New Member

    how do you know you are addicted to using the internet vs just using it? would that latter mean the negative effects of using the internet don't happen??

    or is it like smoking/cancer.
    = cigarettes increase your chance of cancer, just cause you smoke and don't get cancer, doesnt mean they don't, it just means your body is compensating to fight cancer in a different way than those who get cancer.
  7. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest


    I would say real problem with people on this forum excessive use of internet. I don't know your history but most people start on internet just like you are doing currently. I also. I started using internet just for fun n entertainment. And I used it only in summer holidays. I used to play flash games of my favourite cartoon shows. Then I began searching/watching funny videos. Then this activities escalated to viewing half naked women's pics and obviously masturbation. I really liked and still like cartoons, anime shows, comics and manga. One day I was searching for pics of naked girls. I stumbled upon a website which had pics of real naked women and also section of hot anime girls. At that time I didn't know if anime girls could be hot. ::) I clicked on that link and my mind was blown. First I was really shocked. Then I was like umm... can you create such thing. Then I found out about hentai.! Then I started masturbating almost everyday to those things. If I could I wish to go back to that time and kick my young self's butt. That's when performance in school and social development began to decline. I had tried many attempts to stop PMO but none of them had worked. Last year while being depressed I searched on google for treating internet addiction. On one website I found about pornography addiction. Then just for time pass I searched for treating pornography addiction. And first search result link was of After visiting website for first time and knowing about effects of pornography on body, brain and especially on sexual health I found out its time to completely kick-off that world from my life.
  8. leannfit

    leannfit New Member

    this is exactly why I don't watch videos, I read stuff, or skip over text that's irrelevant .

    so when I asked "what is the real problem?"
    the answer is:
    people end up PMOing when they use the internet too much.
    which is why you not looking at P for so long, really is what is going to mess up the brain... and great you have done so well.. avoiding

    with that, I agree..
    before this place, I thought PMOing or even eating wasnt a big deal.(learned elsewhere)
    I would stop once I had a reason,
    but both have long term effects that need time to heal
    so its just not worth doing either
  9. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest

    Week 4

    Same things happened this week as well. Start of the week was really disturbing. I was feeling really bored and lonely. I literally cried two evening because of boredom and loneliness. I can't even surf internet for more than our. I am feeling restless and agitated after using internet for longer time. I am unable to stop caving into my urges. Today was much better than weekdays. Looks like I will have to make some real changes in my routine.

    Do you guys have any suggestion for controlling the urges to use?
  10. leannfit

    leannfit New Member

    find a hobby

    I understand how you feel. I get bored and want to look at p or eat and when I know I can't, I feel as though all energy I have is gone, I become unmotivated to do anything.

    after I lay around awhile, I make some coffee, and try to actually do something.

    I have been dealing with this issue for years and after relapsing many many times, I am done relapsing, Im just sucking up the pain and moving on with life.
    right now, it sucks
    in 10 weeks or so, I'll be good, maybe, but I know if I keep eating/looking at P, I won't be good
  11. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest

    Week 5

    This week went really nice. I was in control while using internet. Overall my mood was good. I felt in control this week. I have decided I will spend maximum 3 hours on internet, computer, TV, smartphone and tablet daily(All combined together). When my daily quota is filled I will use only if someone tells me to do work and stop immediately. And I will use smartphone and tablet for calling, music and reading books. Actually I am searching for hobby that involves everything other than internet, computer, TV, cellphone, smartphone, tablet and other electronic devices.
  12. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest

    Week 6

    I forgot to post yesterday. I was overall in control this week except on Saturday. I have realized on days when I don't exercise I go bit out of control. So exercise is important if you want to stay in control. No new thing happened this week. I guess that's about it for this week.
  13. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest

    Week 7

    Boring! I am getting really bored in home. No motivation to go outside. It just doesn't feel necessary to me. There is nothing to do. Now I think whether things would have been different if I didn't get hooked to internet.
  14. leannfit

    leannfit New Member

    I like this log because it is very neat and we all can see your progress. keep at it
  15. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest

    I have had an insight. I don't know if it would be correct to say it insight. On early days when I first came to know about nofap/YBOP I had read this on
    “The secret of change is to focus all of your energy, not on fighting the old, but on building the new.”― Socrates

    I figured out that I was focusing mainly on 'not using internet, not thinking about porn' and many nos and don'ts. So now I am trying to focus on things I might have been doing when I would have socially confident- things like going outside, talking with friends, asking for help and things like that.

    I am going to do these things by chunking them down into small steps and do them until I become confident in them. You guys can do that as well. Chunk it down! I am not telling you guys to go out and spend whole day outside and talk with friends all day. It would be an overkill.

    Take small steps. First try to spend at least 1 hour outside of home daily for 30 days. (I am considering you are really socially anxious and don't go outside at all) It's really easy. Then increase time monthly by 1 hour.

    “The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and starting on the first one.”
    ― Mark Twain
  16. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest

    Week 8

    I forgot to post yesterday. The week went really nice. I went bit out of control on wednesday but overall week was cool. This week I went outside daily. That's a new good thing. I guess that's it about this week.
  17. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest

    Week 9

    This went really nice. I went outside daily. Daily doses of socialization (might sound weird to normal people) can help you stay away from internet.
  18. leannfit

    leannfit New Member

    I have that issue, I'm very isolated
    what do you do to socialize?
    I hit the gym, know workers at fast food joints(not good, since I get free stuff)
  19. geeknoid

    geeknoid Guest

    Well there are lot of ways to socialize. I have been hanging out with friends, spending more time with family.
  20. leannfit

    leannfit New Member

    right... that's why I asked
    I don't have any friends to hang out with and I see my only family (hour away) as much as I can

    I was looking for other things to do besides those fairly obvious "ideas"

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