The Orgasm Reboot: A New Approach [CONTROVERSIAL]

Discussion in 'Pornography Addiction' started by TheUnderdog, Sep 8, 2012.

  1. ss3kidgoku

    ss3kidgoku Trying to change.

    Well, I'm 18 and I'm not fully addicted, though I do feel like I'm in denial as I never find myself masturbating without porn. I could use the prostate method to help drain my sexual desires, but I feel like that is only a temporal solution to the problem. So, I want to get better truthfully. I also have a girlfriend of 18 months now and the sex is great, but I feel myself always trying to replicate that feeling I get after I have sex with her by masturbating. I often end up desensitized when we have sex and it's weird because I can peak by vaginal or anal intercourse, but when she touches me with her hands or mouth I find it to be rather irritating. She thinks it's her fault but it isn't, it's mine; however, you guys know how women are. I've tried all of this before, deleting all traces of porn off of my computer, all bookmarks, all youtube favorites, etc. Then I come back with a new list of sites and more pictures. I have a weird fetish, if you will, I don't like talking about it but I feel it is necessary here. I get turned on by train horns. Not trains themselves. I often watch videos on youtube of trains approaching a crossing, and I find a female picture, whether it be off of Facebook, a Porn site, or my girlfriend. I don't look at my girlfriend's pictures too much, though she is very attractive and gets the job done the best, I still crawl back to the porn or other women pictures. Maybe it could be my way of satisfaction of fantasy. Of seeing another women's parts other than my girlfriend's. Yet, even when I was single a couple times during, I still did the same thing. So, I feel like I am addicted to porn, but not very deep if that makes any sense. Back to the point, I masturbate with the train-picture method, or I watch porn. Mostly lesbian porn and for some reason lesbians kissing or what not does the job just as well as the real deal (going all of the way in porn universe), the full 30 minute video. I've also tried to delete all of my train videos but the same deal happens. I end up finding more, or just going back to the ones I deleted. Same with all of the porn/pictures. It's quite interesting because yes I see the girls on Facebook in real life, and I look, but it's nothing to make me want to sexually advance to them. I lose that type of hardcore sexual urge in real life, for the most part. When I first learned about this rebooting site, I started rebooting. But not truly, I would like to say that there was one time that I truly went 3 weeks without any type of touching, but I think I'd be lying. As I mentioned earlier, I used the prostate draining method to lower my sex drive whilst watching porn. Maybe if I did that trick normally, without porn (I'll just categorize the train/pic thing in porn) it would be healthy, but I do not do that. Anyway, I kept to the draining for every other day to 3 days. I would barely touch my penis as I rubbed the prostate, in my mind that was considered "okay" to do without breaking my reboot. But eventually temptation came in and I went the whole 9 yards one day. Ironically, the same day when I would've saw my girlfriend later on and had sexual contact. *face palm*. As you can tell, even then I didn't delete all of my porn. And the time I did delete it all, I only lasted about one to a couple days and having been chronically masturbating ever since. Sometimes 3-4 times a day. It's bugging me and I would like advice. Would deleting all of my porn actually help or not? I feel like it wouldn't if I know all of the sources in which I can find them. And should I stop masturbation completely until my sensitivity returns and then try masturbation without porn/sex with my girlfriend? I'm an open book guys, let me know what you think?
     
  2. TheUnderdog

    TheUnderdog Active Member Staff Member

    Paragraphs please.
     
  3. ss3kidgoku

    ss3kidgoku Trying to change.

    Well, I'm 18 and I'm not fully addicted, though I do feel like I'm in denial as I never find myself masturbating without porn. I first started my venture on porn when I was 12. Watched it everyday. Didn't masturbate though. Eventually I came across an article about a lady, girl and the lady's dog. That turned my away from normal/hardcore porn for about 3 years until high school. I turned to my other "fix" which was trains and lesbian sex aka soft porn on youtube. Have been masturbating everyday if not every other day ever since then.

    I have tried to reboot before and I figure I could use the prostate method to help drain my sexual desires, but I feel like that is only a temporary solution to the problem. So, I want to get better truthfully. I also have a girlfriend of 18 months now and the sex is great, but I feel myself always trying to replicate that feeling I get after I have sex with her by masturbating. I often end up desensitized when we have sex and it's weird because I can peak by vaginal or anal intercourse, but when she touches me with her hands or mouth I find it to be rather irritating. She thinks it's her fault but it isn't, it's mine; however, you guys know how women are. I've tried all of this before, deleting all traces of porn off of my computer, all bookmarks, all youtube favorites, etc. Then I come back with a new list of sites and more pictures.


    I have a weird fetish, if you will, I don't like talking about it but I feel it is necessary here. I get turned on by train horns. Not trains themselves. I often watch videos on youtube of trains approaching a crossing, and I find a female picture, whether it be off of Facebook, a Porn site, or my girlfriend. I don't look at my girlfriend's pictures too much, though she is very attractive and gets the job done the best, I still crawl back to the porn or other women pictures. Maybe it could be my way of satisfaction of fantasy. Of seeing another women's parts other than my girlfriend's. Yet, even when I was single a couple times during, I still did the same thing. So, I feel like I am addicted to porn, but not very deep if that makes any sense. Back to the point, I masturbate with the train-picture method, or I watch porn. Mostly lesbian porn and for some reason lesbians kissing or what not does the job just as well as the real deal (going all of the way in porn universe), the full 30 minute video. I've also tried to delete all of my train videos but the same deal happens. I end up finding more, or just going back to the ones I deleted. Same with all of the porn/pictures. It's quite interesting because yes I see the girls on Facebook in real life, and I look, but it's nothing to make me want to sexually advance to them. I lose that type of hardcore sexual urge in real life, for the most part.


    When I first learned about this rebooting site, I started rebooting. But not truly, I would like to say that there was one time that I truly went 3 weeks without any type of touching, but I think I'd be lying. As I mentioned earlier, I used the prostate draining method to lower my sex drive whilst watching porn. Maybe if I did that trick normally, without porn (I'll just categorize the train/pic thing in porn) it would be healthy, but I do not do that. Anyway, I kept to the draining for every other day to 3 days. I would barely touch my penis as I rubbed the prostate, in my mind that was considered "okay" to do without breaking my reboot. But eventually temptation came in and I went the whole 9 yards one day. Ironically, the same day when I would've saw my girlfriend later on and had sexual contact. *face palm*. As you can tell, even then I didn't delete all of my porn. And the time I did delete it all, I only lasted about one to a couple days and having been chronically masturbating ever since. Sometimes 3-4 times a day. It's bugging me and I would like advice.



    Would deleting all of my porn actually help or not? I feel like it wouldn't if I know all of the sources in which I can find them. And should I stop masturbation completely until my sensitivity returns and then try masturbation without porn/sex with my girlfriend? I'm an open book guys, let me know what you think?
     
  4. CidGuerreiro

    CidGuerreiro Well-Known Member

    Delete all your porn. It's the first big step. If you keep it then you're clearly thinking about using it again.
     
  5. ss3kidgoku

    ss3kidgoku Trying to change.

    Okay, I did that! What would be next??
     
  6. InsideOut

    InsideOut Guest

    Keep your hands off your pants. The second big step.

    Wow. In some parallel Universe we could be friends.
     
  7. ss3kidgoku

    ss3kidgoku Trying to change.

    And what do you mean ahaha, is that a good thing? [x
     
  8. CidGuerreiro

    CidGuerreiro Well-Known Member

    Wow... train horns. That's a new one.

    You can find all the information about rebooting on www.yourbrainonporn.com

    Other than that, keep yourself busy with things other than jerking off.
     
  9. nomorefapalexander

    nomorefapalexander New Member

    Personally, the first month when I first started the reboot, I used to MO to sensations once a week. The second month I decided to go with no MO as well, but I end up full PMO at the end of the month, because it was out of control.

    I am virgin myself, and have no sexual life. When the urges to release get too strong, it almost feels like holding your pee when you are about to piss yourself lol.

    After every MO session I would feel good, but then towards the end of the week I would start feeling more and more depressed and lethargic.

    But if you believe that anything is possible, and you have a warrior mentality, it is not unrealistic to abstain from everything at once.
     
  10. Forgotten

    Forgotten Member

    If you ask me, I can tell you that I wasn't able to make any progress until I managed to cut out both porn and masturbation. After every masturbation, I used to feel less motivated, and that always led me to go back to porn. Also, if you have PIED, it is unlikely that you will be able to cure it without cutting out orgasms at least for a few weeks.
    I have to recognise that cutting out both masturbation and porn is very difficult, anyway. In fact, I was only able to do it when I entered in a deep, long lasting flatline.
     
  11. This thread's OP is what I've been thinking for a while on my own. I will read the full thread at length later, but here's a thought I wish to add to the discussion, if it hasn't already been voiced.

    Many of us (especially those predating the freely accessible internet porn) have replaced their MO habits with PMO habits. Before internet P, I'll estimate my percentage was 70% MO and 30% PMO using a magazine. Now, it is 90% plus PMO. Most of us do not MO anymore using mental imagery. We have become so lazy that we just find the imagery on the web, and the MO automatically becomes the PMO.

    Is there a plus side? Yes, now I hardly fantasize much at all, unlike before the web era. Why would I? The P sites narrate the fantasies and I pick my poison, although I have no control over the script- which may get very twisted, and where I might not have wanted to go at all at the start of the session.

    I think those of us who cannot quit cold turkey (and I have a feeling this is the majority), should seriously reprogram and reacquaint ourselves to MO (and not PMO, i.e., no P) when we lose control of libido. Of course, only minimal and healthy fantasy is allowed. Once this shift happens, P should lose its charm automatically.

    Then we can focus our energies on minimizing or eliminating the MO habit. But at least the ghost of P has been buried by then. Right now we fight libido as well as P, no wonder it's a difficult adversary.

    I'm not advocating abandoning the tried and proven methods of Gary et al- that is what is a true reboot, but let's have this tool of relearning MO in our toolbox till then.
     
  12. nomorefapalexander

    nomorefapalexander New Member

    If you stick to just MO, eventually it will get easier and you will be able to quit that as well.

    But, you gotta try to go without MO as long as you can also.
     
  13. perasaafi

    perasaafi New Member

    Whether its Porn or Masturbation or whatever else unhealthy we have to teach our brains that "It is Not OK".
     
  14. PORNhater

    PORNhater I HATE HATE PORN!!!

    Hello Fellow Members...I have been reading your post for the past hour, and I got to say..this is soo awsome I can finally have a website where you can have the information and quitting this porn adiction. I never thought in my life that porn was like this...but its been a week I have not look at any porn or fantasize any porn actress giving me head.

    One part I thought that Audio stimulation would help...but no it did not....So this is what I am going try....I like underdog comment saying...this is what we are trying to do BREAK the link in your brain ....MASTURBATION TO PORN.....That will never happen to me again......I will try.....but masturbating....all at once...I guess I have to take it baby steps...just when I have a serious hard on and not using a death grip and NOT NOT on porn....porn is a disease to men sexuality. What I think is that our brain has not evolved to our society we live in....it has not adapt to YOUTUBE, OR THE internet...its still on basic sexual needs.....it has no idea how to know if PORN or a REAL women makes you horny..what ever you masturbate too...the computes saying...OH he is exited...ok..thats how its going to be...and when you with a real women...the brain get confused....!!!!

    I like the term saying you NEED TO REBOOT...but your brain on DEFAULT MODE....and I feel more motivated now :)..and I thank you....so this is what I got from all your threads....I am a NEWBIE so please let me know if I got it right: I am 37..been masturbating to porn since I was 25.....I have pretty regular sexual life...but I get so much nervous sometimes with my partner that....i can get it up....for some reason its not coming up....so been going on the internet FOUND this site....and accepted ITS PORN...Porn is bad....its not real and unhealthy to masturbate to porn...Its puts you in a trance of make belief...in it UN NATURAL to JERK off to porn.....now saying that....Mastrubation is ok if you masturbate to the feeling of your body and a light grip.....So I will quit PORN cold turkey....but masturbate and eventually have it les and less...Man after reading, I wish I was like my I MAC...not working really...ok..FORMAT, re install all the basic sofware and lets RE START :)....I ENVY MY MAC NOW : )

    Thank you guys for the thread..and il keep checking and giving you feed back on my recovery.....and feel free to send me MSG on advices!..I am willing and able and confident :)
     
  15. peacefulwarrior87

    peacefulwarrior87 New Member

    Hey guys I'm new! I have to say that the whole "orgasm-free" stuff is the one I find it the more difficult to live with. Quitting masturbation for someone single and horny as myself is gonna be very very hard.... nonetheless I believe porn is the one reason or at least one of the reasons of me being single...that's why I'm here. I wanna break free from the porn addiction, I wanna see at porn as a diversion not as an habit or a lifestyle as it is right now.

    See you around the forum guys! 8)
     
  16. CidGuerreiro

    CidGuerreiro Well-Known Member

    The problem is that masturbation usually leads to porn. Also, you'll learn to differ from being really horny (something porn addicts have long forgotten) from the simple need to get off, which is the addictive impulse talking.
     
  17. Impervious

    Impervious New Member

    There's no problem having sex right?
     
  18. iam new here and just read the original post on this thread about separating P from MO to feel less guilt and fight the #1 enemy that is porn not orgasm...

    THE DOUBLE COUNTER APPROACH IS GENIOUS !!! I already feel more power beating this disease just by reading about this neat trick. Together we will invent ways to beat it. We are all in this TOGETHER here and sharing tricks like this makes us all win together. HA !!! TASTE THIS PORN BITCH !!!
     
  19. Kingofqueens89

    Kingofqueens89 New Member

    if you wired your brain to porn at a young age and did not have sex during approximately 10 years of porn masturbation to fully recover you cannot orgasm. If you wll you will not fully recover. It doesn't matter how long it takes its 90 days no pmo or 200 days no pmo.you will know when your ready.full erection from kissing that doesn't go limp.simple as that.half ass reboot will not work.i tried it doesn't work.underdog way will work for people that haven't wired to porn during adolescence.
     
  20. hogus

    hogus New Member

    With you on that one. You really do need to get rid of MO as much as you possibly can if you wired to high speed as a teenager.
     

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