The Orgasm Reboot: A New Approach [CONTROVERSIAL]

Discussion in 'Pornography Addiction' started by TheUnderdog, Sep 8, 2012.

  1. @ModusVivendi

    I too have noticed that I often feel great for one or two days after MO/PMO, only to crash on day 3. From there, it's a slow climb back up. Some things improve a lot as the days pass, such as my social anxiety, while other things probably don't reach the same level as the high immediately after MO/PMO, well not yet for me anyway.
     
  2. I tried having an occasional orgasm with masturbation in my reboot. As much as it feels good, I'll try to stop it.
    Orgasms, specially if I MO in 2days in a row, throws me back at flatline.
    So no more solo orgasms for me...
     
  3. Unstable

    Unstable Member

    This thread was created a month and a half ago. I was wondering those who have chosen this pathway how is it working out for you?
     
  4. rcfergie5

    rcfergie5 Guest

    maybe we should consider that by taking the orgasm reboot approach, we're actually focusing more on the process rather than the outcome, and the complete abstinence approach is pretty outcome focused.
     
  5. geordie

    geordie New Member

    i think to some extent it has helped me. i was using this approach purely to break the habit of watching porn and to try and seperate p and m. i went 5 weeks without porn. not sure how many times I m'd during this time. in the last 7 weeks since then i have relapsed 4 times to pmo and this has been more or less every 2 weeks. however i have very very rarely m'd in between these times. for example i relapsed 1 week ago which would have been the sixth week after relapsing on the 5 week streak.

    in this time i have moved into my own place so the old habit i had of watching porn in my room has gone. i am now going to go as long as i can with no m and if i feel i need to m i will.

    its taking me a hell of long time to make progress. i started this in march. however i used to watch porn nearly everyday and i have pmo'd 4 times in the last 12 weeks. i wish i hadnt watched it at all but at the same time the distance between me and porn is growing all the time and i think the O reboot has contributed in some way.
     
  6. lesliejohnson

    lesliejohnson New Member


    Thank you. It freaks me out when I hear people talk about complete abstinence or lose your energy because I like sex. The whole reason for my reboot is to able to enjoy real sex with real women instead of trying to be celibate.
     
  7. evgtrees

    evgtrees Member

    Yes, its working for me. Whoever had this original plan, thank you so much.
     
  8. Couple months ago, I was a supporter of the O reboot. But I just dont feel the same after orgasm. Im happy for the first 1 or 2 days, yes, but its sort of an ignorant level of satisfaction- my thought processes dont encompass the many things I have going for me. I orgasm, feel good, so good I neglect relationships, commitments, working out-running, studies, going out, etc. So I have to retract my positive experience with the O-reboot. Admittedly, it was based on a small sample of experience, and only through comparison to a long, no BS reboot can I say No BS reboot > O-reboot.
     
  9. jerome_smith

    jerome_smith New Member

    Giving up MO is nearly impossible for single guys unless you get laid regularly. After finding YBOP, I immediatly gave up porn. I was not addicted to it, have had no desire to look at it (been almost a month now and have not once had the desire to look at porn), but I did appear ot have at least some level of ED based on the fact that I've failed in a couple sexual encounters and my dick always felt dead - so porn obviously fucked my brain up. Since stopping porn, I've been more aroused, it's much easier to get fully erect with light manual stimulation (no fantasy), and I d I did MO once about a week and a half ago, sensation only. But I still find myself getting frequently aroused from brief thoughts of past sexual encounters (not porn, real encounters). It becomes hard to focus at work, or hard to sleep at night. Fighting this indefinitely is stupid and will just make you unprdocutive, and I doubt it will fuck you up because masturbation is natural and healthy. In fact, since much of this is pseduo science, I find it hard to believe that light fantasies of past REAL sexual encounters can really hurt you that much.

    From now on, I'm never looking at porn again. The hardest part is just not looking at pics/vides of my ex, but it's still not an issue. When I find myself constantly aroused and unable to concentrate, I'll MO but take my time and focus on sensation as much as possible. Pron is the problem like so many have said, not masturbation. If you have ED but aren't necessarily addicted to pron (just the pron may have rewired your brain), why torture yourself for no good reason?

    Also, after my first MO, I felt fine..no flat line, no depression, I haven't had any depression still feel exactly the same after quitting porn just my dick is less dead.

    The pron I watched was normal hard core amateur stuff, but I think my brain just got used to watching other dudes fuck girls (since I've been single for a year and have only hooked up a couple times) and so when I had to do it my dick didn't respond any more. If your dick responds to mental images of you having sex with an ex partner (from first person view not third person), what's the difference? The physical cues might not be there, but when you're on top of that girl in real life again you should still be aroused by the real life view.

    My goal is to MO every couple weeks or less, and if the urges become less then I will MO less. But I'm not going to drive myself crazy avoiding MO, especially if I'm still seeing signs of recovery.
     
  10. TheUknown

    TheUknown Gonna Quit Fapping And Porn For forever now.

    I will never relapse. You have my word. I will leave the forums if i do.
     
  11. unscarred

    unscarred Guest

    Yeah, that's the mentality I used to have. Huge fucking mistake.
     
  12. hogus

    hogus New Member

    Probably true but from the reactions people are having to this line, it would have been so much better not to have put it in. People are rationalizing it as you giving them permission to MO when they don't absolutely to the point-of-no-return NEED to.
     
  13. TheUnderdog

    TheUnderdog Active Member Staff Member

    You're probably right.

    I just edited it out.
     
  14. Samurai

    Samurai Ex dolore fortitudo

    I find this to be an most interesting approach. Granted, it's not for me as I have full confidence in my ability to not need release, but for others with a higher sex drive or different believes/circumstances this is spendid idea. As others have pointed out though, one must be careful to not use it as an execuse to masturbate whenever one pleases.
     
  15. Pedigree

    Pedigree Active Member

    I will say that I will cease to practice the orgasm reboot. I came out of a 77 day reboot attempt recently using this reboot and found that there are a few points against it.

    1. The assumption that you will MO: I think it's better to go into a reboot with the assumption that you won't MO as opposed to going into it with the assumption that you will. If you go with the assumption that you won't MO, if you do MO it'll be an aberration . Whereas if you assume that you will MO, you'll MO at the first sign of trouble.

    2. Over-MOing: How do you guarantee that you'll MO only to kill off porn cravings? How do you know that when you MO, the situation is as bad as you think? Objectively speaking, I MOed more times that I would've liked during this reboot. Some of the MOs was just a matter of not getting out of bed fast enough and end up playing with my dick.

    3. Progress: To be quiet honest, I was relieved that I relapsed after 77 days because with all the MOing that I'd been doing, it didn't feel like I was on 77 days. I guess if you MOed 3-4 times, you'll feel progress but I was MOing a lot and it feels like I'm in the middle of nowhere reboot wise.
     
  16. ModusVivendi

    ModusVivendi New Member

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  17. Shrug

    Shrug Guest

    I'm going out on a limb and saying porn isn't the enemy here. The problem is the way in which we use porn. The solitary sitting hunched up over the computer shaking the life out of our dicks is the problem and any kind of negative motivation that may have led us there ie loneliness, low self esteem, lack of confidence, etc. etc. Basically, I don't believe P is the problem nor M nor O, but PMO is.
     
  18. JDoe

    JDoe No amount of pixels is ever gonna love you back...

    I gotta say, Shrug...for a newb, you make a damn good point. :eek:

    I doubt this is the proper thread to say this in, but I really think we all need to start taking a more 'holisitc' view of this PMO thing.
    The further my addiction fades in my rearview mirror, the more I have seen it as the SYMPTOM of problems in my life I did not want to face. When you remove the drug (PMO), all those things have a funny way of bubbling up to the surface of your awareness. And without the drug, there's nowhere to run. I just have to deal with them.

    So we can go on and on about different methods of rebooting, orgasm reboots, motivational strategies, etc. And if any of these things help people to break through the grips of the addiction - then I say more power to them.

    But there is something else underneath all of this...something that runs much deeper, and rarely gets discussed in all the traffic on this forum.
    The question: "Why did I become a PMO addict in the first place?"

    I could be wrong, but I'm willing to bet that doing the real soul-searching required to come up with an honest answer to that question will take any man on here much further than picking the best reboot strategy, or MO schedule, or...whatever. I think those things are distractions...places we can focus our attention so we don't have to ever answer that one simple question.

    Treat the cause, or treat the symptoms?

    Just some thoughts...
     
  19. Netherlife

    Netherlife Guest

    A fine point JDoe. I think the following questions would be a good place to start:

    Your brain understands balance. If you get rid of porn and masturbation out of your life, your brain expects you to fulfill those needs in a different way. If you fail to do so, it will create cravings for the old behaviors. True healing is found by taking what porn has given you in the past, and then finding meaningful ways of replacing this behavior with something that benefits your life. For example, the rush of adrenaline. Adrenaline is part of the rush of porn, and that adrenaline burst has been keeping you in balance for years. If you want to satisfy your needs in a healthy way, you have to find a new way to satisfy that need. You have to find a new way to get that adrenaline, to get that rush.

    If you can create balance in your life without porn, you will not need any reboot methods or techniques. All this addiction really is is a somewhat complicated version of give and get. If you want to get up earlier, you have to go to sleep earlier. If you want to lose weight, you have to give up high fat foods. If you want to get rid of your poor diet, you have to replace it with a healthy one. You give and you get. It is the same thing with this addiction. You give, and then you get. You take away the porn, but you have to replace it with something that fills that void. However, in order to find out what you need to be doing to remove this behavior from your life, you need to have a clear understanding of what emotions you seek from porn. You need to understand what role porn is currently serving in your life, where it is helping you meet your needs, and where is it falling short. That is what those questions above are aimed at accomplishing. The clearer your understanding is of this, the easier it becomes to say "no" to porn. Once you know what kept you tied to porn, you now have a path to follow. All you have to do to quit is to fill that void with healthy behaviors that serve you in a beneficial way. Quitting porn (or any addiction for that matter) is all about having those needs met in an way that benefits your life.
     
  20. JDoe

    JDoe No amount of pixels is ever gonna love you back...

    I agree with you 100%, Netherlife (except that bit about, "If you want to lose weight, you have to give up high fat foods." That's actually a bit of a myth, to which anyone else on here who eats Paleo can attest. But I do get the gist of what you're saying completely. ;) )

    Great set of questions, and I think the statements about balance - perfect!
    Awesome stuff man. Thanks!
     

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