the dopamine receptors degeneration also existant with video games?

Discussion in 'Internet Addiction' started by Franken Penis, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. Franken Penis

    Franken Penis New Member

    i was just thinking. there was a time during my teen years were i was painting miniatures sometimes for 8-10 hours a day. nowadays i just cant imagine to focus on something like that for so long and i suspect that video games are a result of this. since most games are designed to give people rewards in shorter and shorter timespans things that need tons of patience and endurance like painting or piano cant compete to the rapid dopamine shots videogames give you.

    what do you guys think?
     
  2. RunDroogieRun

    RunDroogieRun New Member

    I'm not sure on this exact correlation, but it's my opinion that in general you ought to work on giving up video games completely. They're not challenging in any meaningful sense, and I'm not sure it's something that a (mature) male would engage in. I used to love them a lot, but nowadays live totally without them. I feel better for it.
     
  3. BAMBAM

    BAMBAM New Member

    I'm trying to kick the video game habit aswell. . however I don't enjoy them as much as I use to. . it seems like the quality of video games has gone absolutely downhill. Though, that's another story.
     
  4. jackal007

    jackal007 Fall seven times, get up eight.

    I think we should have stopped video game evolution sometime around <1990.

    Why?

    If you died, game over.
    No do overs.
    No cheats.
    No achievements.
    Made it through 90 teeth-pulling levels, you are on your last life on the last boss and you die?
    Start from level 1. Enjoy.

    Games were frustrating as hell and they were challenging. New games are not challenging at all. Its funny. Its like the video game developers got addicted to PMO and no longer wanted to offer delayed gratification in the sense of satisfaction for overcoming some small geeky game developers wet dream of a torture chamber/video game. Instead, in today's games, there is tons of meaningless rewards littered everywhere and nil-punishment for losing.

    This is a large factor of why I quit video gaming a few years ago. I used to feel challenged by them, so I wanted to beat them. Now I feel like I'm wasting my time on them. Or, maybe I'm just growing up. Either way, kick 'em to the curb and get back to piano. You'll pick up tons more chicks by playing 'Great Balls of Fire' than you will talking about your 85th level shaman with 275 hours total played time.
     
  5. ironworld

    ironworld New Member

    I call bullshit tbh. I bet you can concentrate on other things for long periods of time if you wanted to. Have you even tried? Or are you just guessing that you no longer could? I can jam my guitar for hours if I want. I can work on my car for days at a time. Hell, I have to do my job 8hrs a day.

    And I LOVE videogames. I still jam Battlefield 3 most nights, as well as countless hours on Counter-Strike and many other games both on PC, 360, and PS3.

    I think the problem is just our laziness these days. Painting probably feels like work to most people now. You have to be doing something you really enjoy, or that you'll get a lot of enjoyment out of when you finish.
     
  6. superduper

    superduper break the chains of porn

    I don't think video games are NEARLY the same as porn, at least to my brain. To me, most video games require a good deal of concentration before getting rewarded, but with streaming porn its just BAM BAM BAM stimulation. In fact I've lost the ability to enjoy games since heavy PMO, even though I've loved games since I was like 5. And I don't think it just has to do with 'growing up'.
     
  7. Forgive Me

    Forgive Me tmrw belongs to people who prepare for it today!

    Video games are a waste of time.

    I used to love them but life has moved on and i dont have time for them.
     
  8. Franken Penis

    Franken Penis New Member

    the thing is, there are moments were im psychologically pretty upset. angry, depressed, sad etc wich are pretty much symptoms of pornabuse. but i notice i get a dose of relief once i play a game. thats were i see the connection. would i sit down to the drawing board or piano i would get even more upset after a short time.

    of course it doesnt trigger the same insane neuro-biological-overkill that porn does but i think you cant deny it has an impact.

    i think you can also see this with jackal007 argument. nowadays games ARE tailored to give gratification for LESS effort. because its more addicting. see how games like world of warcraft with idiotic daily quests are designed to keep players coming back and back again. they are doing its 5th? expansion. its the same with sugar and the food industry. get them addicted to sugar and they come back again for more instead of sticking to natural food.

    i can remember the serenity of just sitting down and painting a fucking miniature for 8 hours. my mind calm the whole time and at the end of those 8 hours you look at something and get a gratification from it because you learned something while having fun at the same time. im really trying to get back to this.. its really really hard and sometimes im asking myself if i have changed because that was my way or is it because porn and videogame addiction.
     
  9. RunDroogieRun

    RunDroogieRun New Member

    ^Can't you just sell your video games and systems? I mean, it's one thing if you still find them to be entertaining (as some of the people posting here do), but if you're bored with them get rid of them. Honestly, I have a friend who is my age (31) who still plays video games, and I'm frankly astonished by this fact (he did just get married, though, so I suppose he'll be giving them up soon).

    There's a book by a NYU sociologist called "Guyland", that deals with the various problems facing young men in advanced industrial societies today, which contains a chapter on video games--and one on porn. You should check it out for a perspective on this.
     
  10. Franken Penis

    Franken Penis New Member

    thanks for the booktip rundoogierun. i will pick it up at some point i guess. to be honest with videogames its abit like with porn for me. if i need a quick dopamine fix. i play.

    i tried to stay away from it. cleaning my computer from them. but somehow i always comeback. oh the pattern.
     
  11. Video games are my favorite hobby, I plan to work in the industry someday.

    Regardless, if you're wasting your life away on them, quit or cut back a lot.

    It's your life.
     
  12. Pedigree

    Pedigree Active Member

    I'm finding that as I get older I increasingly can do without videogames. There's just more important things (until I start this thing, including porn) than videogames.

    Still feels great to win the 2012 NBA Finals with Chicago Bulls, though.
     
  13. gerrit1971

    gerrit1971 New Member

    Hi
    My video game addiction almost caused me to loose everything in life. So I can say yes. If you want to read all heartbreaking stories visit www.olganon.org.

    I am new here, but I have been posting there a lot. Me coming here is just a result of internet addiction that seems to get worse the last time.
    gaming is all about Dopamine, and at Olganon there are addiction test. Gaming is the same like drinking alcohol. When you drink a little its ok. It goes wrong when you drinl all day, and gaming all day gives a Dopamine overload. games that never end, you can never win, that cause you to work complete days to get certain rewards should be considered as extremely dangerous, and if you are in doubt I highly recommend to "reboot"on video games. I needed 90 days to get through the worst episode in my life...and then i relapsed what took me 1 month more, but since then I can play an offline game like 3 times a week for 1 hour a day....(and I dont want to play more...its just casual now)

    I hope this helps.
     
  14. Forgive Me

    Forgive Me tmrw belongs to people who prepare for it today!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12541769

    Chinese guy dies after 3 day video gaming binge.
     
  15. McMaynerbury

    McMaynerbury New Member

    I've mostly stopped video games because I'm afraid it'll slow down rebooting. It's my primary form of stress relief, so I'm trying to cut it out with stress relief that might be more rewarding/productive. I think maybe I'll go down to Hobby Works and try to find something I can do with my hands that takes a long time. Like how you used to paint miniatures.
     
  16. It's odd becuase I just upgraded my internet speed, I've been what I would consider a HC gamer since I can remember. The year 2000? I've met many great people online and have had great experiences but I do indeed believe we need to branch out, it's been one hell of a ride that I did enjoy however we should discipline ourselves and not allow more than one hour a day during mon-fri and that's being lenient. On Saturday and Sunday? Sure, play some video games. But we should be not only improving our reboot process from PMO but also our reboot process to become more productive to ourselves. Unless it's chess, play all the chess while listening to classical music that you want!
     
  17. ironworld

    ironworld New Member

    MMO's are certainly addictive (warcraft for example) as they recreate this virtual world and allow you to live this fake 2nd life. It can be an escape for some, and it is dangerous. RPG's may also fall into this category, but if they are offline it is less likely they will.

    Shooters, strategy games, etc... I can't see as being too damaging even if we do get addicted to playing them each day. I don't feel depressed or upset in any way if I don't get to play a videogame for a few weeks.
     
  18. InsideOut

    InsideOut Guest

    Everything is harmful if used in excess. There're no "good" or "bad" things or "good" or "bad" addictions. I was addicted to books in childhood — they did no more good for me than fapping or games obsessions later on.
     
  19. RunDroogieRun

    RunDroogieRun New Member

    Oh come on.
     
  20. InsideOut

    InsideOut Guest

    I'm serious. But your mileage may wary :)
     

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