Should I cut out TV, Internet, and Skype for 2 weeks?

Discussion in 'Internet Addiction' started by ChangeMYlife100, May 31, 2012.

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Yes or no?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    1 vote(s)
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  1. ChangeMYlife100

    ChangeMYlife100 New Member

    Im trying to speed up recovery and I wanted to know if y'all think cutting out tv/Internet/ and Skype would speed things up a little? If not what are something's that can speed it up?
     
  2. High_Achiever

    High_Achiever New Member

    that might help since you'll probably have to find replacement activities to full up the gap.

    Definetly give it a try!
     
  3. moksha

    moksha Member

    I would. I'm going to really, really try and cut down on the amount of time I sit in front of any screen, whether TV or laptop. I'm sure this has fuelled my depression and social anxiety. It leaves you feeling detached from the world- you get into the habit of observing/ watching instead of engaging. This has been part of my sexual problem. I can masturbate while thinking of a girl, but not when I'm with her. This is fucking insane and is a result of countless hours of watching- watching images on a screen. Internet porn has re-programmed my brain to associate orgasm with fantasy and passive observation. I've just pulled my bike of the shed and am going to get it mended today. I need to be out of the house every day- out in the fresh air, with people, with nature, with real fucking life!!!
     
  4. Forgive Me

    Forgive Me tmrw belongs to people who prepare for it today!

    Good Luck Moksha.

    PMO ruins lives, not just ones Penis.

    The more you stop using modern technology and gadgets the you will develop as a person and increase you social skills. If you can, make this a long term goal and not just 2 weeks.

    I hope to do the same. I have found myseff having more interests such as fixing my bike and DIY. I have taken up more projects in my house since reducing my PMO.

    Good luck.
     
  5. moksha

    moksha Member

    Thanks mate

    You are right about the wider problems constant PMO brings. I live in the UK and opened my paper today to read a story about a 12 year old boy who raped a 9 year old girl after watching hardcore porn/ fantasy rape online. :mad: It's just insane that children have 24 hr access to such poisonous shit. I don't care what anyone says, porn is dehumanizing and encourages men to see women as objects and to think of sex as something you do to someone rather than something you share. Don't get me wrong, I used porn and enjoyed it, but I knew from the start that it wasn't healthy. Not only has it left me with sexual problems, it's left me feeling detached from women generally- I find it hard to really feel anything towards real women now. By nature I'm quite an emotional and loving man, so this is really sad and frustrating. I feel disconnected, that's the best way I can put it.
     
  6. Forgive Me

    Forgive Me tmrw belongs to people who prepare for it today!

    The body is able to heal itself.

    Dont worry my friend time is a healer, be patient.

    Eat the right foods, exercise both mind and body, and dont abuse yourself and i believe you will make a full recovery.

    Its a sick world we live in. Another good reason to give up porn is for our children, the later generations. I dont want my kids exposed to porn the way i have been.
     
  7. Odezur

    Odezur New Member

    After going through this process for about 6 months I've realized trying to "speed up" everything is the wrong way of looking at it. It all comes down to adjusting to a new way of life. I've gotten to the point that I'm not even counting the days or worrying about my dick. I just don't look at porn anymore, period. Sure I'll slip up on the rare occasion but I've changed the way I operate just by figuring out what works and what doesn't.

    That being said, if you think cutting that stuff out will be beneficial to you, try it. Try not watching TV, using the internet (thats next to impossible for me) and Skype for a week and see if you see any benefits. It's all about figuring out what works and what doesn't and the only way to find out is to try it for yourself. Some stuff will work for some guys and it won't for others. Getting tons of differing opinions on how you should change your life from a forum won't give you the answer you are looking for. Trial and error will.
     
  8. moksha

    moksha Member

    The problem with internet porn is that orgasm becomes associated with being an observer/ voyeur. TV and internet generally re-inforce this sense or habit of being an onlooker, of being detached etc. So I guess it makes sense to try
     
  9. Beefheart

    Beefheart New Member

    Nicely put Moksha. Good to meet a fellow Brit btw.

    50ish years ago they were warning all this about handheld cameras and becoming our own observers (with telling phrases like "Such a nice evening, shame no-one brought a camera"). Dread to think how it'll be in another 50 years - best escape ASAP.
     
  10. moksha

    moksha Member

    Thanks Beefheart

    Funny you should put "dread to think how it'll be in another 50 years" as I'm reading a book called 'The World in 2030' by Ray Hammond at the moment (thanks to overpopulation we're all fucked by the way :p). He makes some staggering predictions. Among other things (such as life expectancy rising to 130 +) he believes we will spend a huge amount of time in virtual worlds/ virtual reality. This is already beginning, what with second life etc. Then again, I guess me sitting here in England communicating not just with a fellow Brit, but with guys in the United States, Canada, Germany etc is quite incredible (and wonderful too). But it is also not really 'real'. It's not the same as sitting face to face at a support group in the local community centre. As part of my recovery I really feel the need to just get out of the damn house more, to sort of re-ground myself in the real world.
     
  11. Beefheart

    Beefheart New Member

    I hear you alright! If I read eastern philosophy about centring oneself, I'm reading it via the medium of pixels in a sealed environment. I think it's a big problem with our generation as a whole: we can't truly enjoy company or solitude: people feel alone when they're out, or they switch on youtube indoors. At least when the ancient hermits shut away they were alone with themselves.

    For a dose of reality, one of my favourite methods is folk music at the local pub. It's powerfully real - you can quickly get drawn into it. No recorded music, however beautiful, quite compares to music made in that environment. The musicians may be old friends, equally they may be total strangers who quickly find a rapport. I know it's helped me, but then I often join in. It's as addictive as it is healing, but there's still a lot more I could get involved in if I just closed the laptop sometimes.
     
  12. Eternity

    Eternity Patience

    For a long time I have believed that the advancement of our technology will spell the doom of what we know as "normal human life". Not only because of what you mention there, but think about the porn industry: when it starts to match reality, then why would anyone want to go through the hassle to get a real partner? This used to be what I thought, that technology needs to hurry up so that I don't need a real girl. Now I realise how terrible this will be - people will succumb to these virtual realities, possibly causing the downfall of the human race.

    While I'm obviously exaggerating, I don't think it's completely unlikely to happen. I know that I would have welcomed this advancement with open arms in the past, and I can't be the only one. But if I could change my mind, then so can others.
     
  13. Journey to Freedom

    Journey to Freedom Vincere est Vivere

    He believes that life expectancy will rise to 130+ by 2030? That's awesome!

    I'm only turned 20 recently, does that mean that I'll live to be 130+
     
  14. moksha

    moksha Member

    Yes, I think 'healing' is exactly the right word. This is something we really miss in our culture- that sort of coming together/ communal experience. The closest most people get is watching England down the pub! People have more entertainment than ever before, yet are also more lonely than ever before. This is only going to increase. In Japan there is even a special word for young people who withdraw into their room and live in a fake world of video games andinternet clips etc.
     
  15. Journey to Freedom

    Journey to Freedom Vincere est Vivere

    Yeah, it's called a "Hikikomori"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori


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  16. moksha

    moksha Member

    I don't think you are exaggerating at all Eternity. The next big thing on the horizon is virtual reality. Within a couple of decades we'll be able to enter virtual realities not that different from The Matrix (according to people like Ray Kurzweil). We will also be able to have sexual encounters in these virtual realities. How all this works I have no idea, but just imagine THAT!! Imagine being able to enter a virtual reality which is so realistic it is indistinguishable from real reality, and to have sexual encounters in that virtual reality with stunning women any time you like. This is coming, it's just a question of when. There is a book (can't remember the title, but it has exodus in it) which warns that some people will simply disappear into these virtual worlds, only returning to the real world to eat, sleep, do minimal work and pay the bills.

    Then of course there will be robots/ androids designed for sex. It sounds a bit sci fi, but it will happen. In fact, the most expensive sex dolls available atm are stunningly life-like. Imagine when they are animated and move about!! Imagine being able to buy an android sexbot modelled on your favourite porn star (say, Jordan Capri), one which is so lifelike you'd struggle to tell it apart from the real thing. Will people still bother with all the emotional drama and pain of a real relationship?

    At first it would be amazing. But we'd overload ourselves with pleasure, just as we do with internet porn, and just burn out.
     
  17. moksha

    moksha Member

    Yes, that's the word! Thanks for posting this. Scary stuff. But this is just the beginning. The entertainment available 10 years from now will make youporn and facebook seem dull as hell.
     
  18. Journey to Freedom

    Journey to Freedom Vincere est Vivere

    Yeah man, it's scary stuff, I actually forsee a whole generation of American hikikomori developing by the end of this decade, What do you think?

    They've actually created outreach programs for them in Japan. Here's a video made by one of the organization who seeks to save them from their destructive habits and bring them back into functional society.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Y7R5zP0wc
     
  19. Laurynas

    Laurynas 300 Days+ Experienced.

    Interesting.

    I've cut out on TV about a year ago. (Great thing).
    Skype - used only for work (transferring files and such).
    Internet - have to use daily at work and on other projects. Can't cut out this one. (Well, I can, but I won't, it will cause me more damage than good).
    Facebook - not using so much (up to half an hour, an hour a day) compared to before (6-12 hours) it seems like a tiny piece now.
     
  20. moksha

    moksha Member

    Oh yeah, it will definitely happen. In fact I'd say it's happening already. Here in the UK there are plenty of kids who spend the vast majority of their leisure time playing video games. I used to do karate, and I remember the instructor saying to me once "you know, when I was young kids used to love all this. We couldn't wait to get to the gym and get training. Today they are dragged here by their parents. Most of them would prefer to be at home playing video games."

    It's quite an incredible thought that we will one day have virtual realities as realistic and convincing as you find in The Matrix. But it won't just be the teenagers who will overuse it. I can imagine, say, a lonely, retired 70 year old widow escaping from her unhappy life into virtual reality.
     

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