recovering from severe PIED

Discussion in 'Ages 25-29' started by Guts, May 28, 2018.

  1. Guts

    Guts Active Member Staff Member

    Yes they have improved, they seem to only last about a week now at the longest. I could M and O in a flatline and then the next day have 100% working erections and bounce right out of the flatline, or I can M and O while not in a flatline and go a week with a functioning dick and then out of nowhere I'll go back into a flatline even while abstaining. So i'm very confused.

    One thing I noticed is that when I was abstaining for 6 months I didn't really have any porn flashbacks or fantasies, once I started reintroducing orgasms they resurfaced again. Recently I've been doing some breathing exercises that somewhat help with the flashbacks and intrusive fantasies.

    I definitely know we will get out of this. Where I am now is the best I've ever been in the last 8 years of me doing this shit. I couldn't even get the slightest erection to porn last year.
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  2. Dee556pak

    Dee556pak New Member

    Hey mate you there?
  3. Guts

    Guts Active Member Staff Member

    I'm here. Doing Pretty darn good. I'm experimenting on longer periods of hard mode and it's really helping. If I have too many orgasms it does seem to put me in a mini flatline.

    I feel like I am mostly cured but as I've said, orgasms and stimulation do still have a bit of an effect on me.
  4. Guts

    Guts Active Member Staff Member

    Feeling kind of lost right now. Every month I go through this cycle, I abstain, the flatline goes and my erections last longer than last months, I continue to abstain and then I just hit a flatline without any orgasm or stimulation. Then I orgasm while in a flatline and the cycle continues.

    I'm starting to feel like abstaining from orgasms aren't helping me here and staying away from porn might be the only thing that has been improving me. I see improvements every month and yet I still flatline whether I orgasm or not.

    Well, I'm gonna see what happens this month and get back with results.
  5. Universal

    Universal Active Member Staff Member


    You're still quite clean with porn then?
  6. Guts

    Guts Active Member Staff Member

    Yeah, it's been 7 months since I last looked at it. Never going back. It sucks but I really can't complain, I am still improving. I could be wrong but I really think abstaining for 3 or 6 months without orgasm still isn't going to get rid of this.

    How have you been Universal?
  7. Doper

    Doper Active Member

    Now this is just my opinion, but I would try to go get laid, and I'm sure you may be VERY surprised how functional you are. You may feel totally flatlined but once you're in the position that sex is imminent, your shit will work fine. This was my experience. I'm saying this knowing how long you've been at this, I wouldn't say that to someone a month or two in. And it gives you a data point to work with. Maybe it doesn't work the first time (I think you'll be fine) but man I'm sure you've gone long enough. Those people that have to go more than several months (no relapses), I'm pretty sure they have other things going on. I'd just go find some average-below average chick that is down and start from there. Because once you give it a few shots, you either know you're functional or you need more time. Just going hard mode for many more months doesn't really give you insight into where you are and may end up being wasted time that could have been used to better ends. But who knows.

    Also, I'd also give sulbutiamine a try, I have taken many things to try to speed up this process, and didn't really think much helped, but this stuff I think is worth taking, I think it may actually do somethng.
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  8. Pete McVries

    Pete McVries Well-Known Member

    That was exactly my experience. But it also helped to have a steady partner. You get used to each other, the sex steadily becomes better for both parties and so on and so forth. Even if you shouldn't get it up once or twice, she will still know that you are a good sex partner if you have already had sex a few times. So the pressure which can also be a negative factor (fear of failure was huge for me in the beginning) is also much lower. In my humble opinion, testing erections also didn't work and were of no use for me. Because without any stimulation, I sometimes couldn't get an erection. But a day later, they worked perfectly fine with my girl. It's a super big step from solely abstaining to having sex. But at some point, you'll just have to jump into the cold water, but you'll get used to it quicker than you think!
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  9. axebattler

    axebattler Member Staff Member

    I also think testing erections is pointless. Lots of addicts can get hard to P but not real women, so I wouldn't worry about "solo" erections.

    And as always, avoid P like the plague.
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  10. Universal

    Universal Active Member Staff Member

    Great work!

    I've been up and down, had a very very clean month and I relapsed this weekend more than once. I've been doing some research on why my brainfog is so closely linked to sleep after user Hogus suggested it and my brainfog may be more symptomatic of depression rather than P addiction (though I'm firm in my belief I'm still an addict and P still has a very negative impact on my cognition). Anyway, I'm looking into therapy options and EMDR. I feel I've tried almost everything and therapy is something I've never really given a shot.

    I'm going to pile on to what Doper said. You'll likely be quite surprised at your abilities. I know you don't hold much weight in the 'rewiring' concept, I do believe in it so if the first couple times you don't have success just keep at it if possible - results came quickly for me. If you think going for sex is a good path for you.. Just try pick a girl who isn't a girl looking for a very, very casual one-off encounter, you need her to have some level of investment in you to keep her from freaking out (really, almost entirely it will be her self-esteem and not what she thinks of you) and not hearing from her again.
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  11. Doper

    Doper Active Member

    Also, if you're into chicks wearing hazmat suits there has never been a better time to enter the dating game.
  12. pebur

    pebur New Member

    Yes and no. Testing erections with porn is destructive in any case, I completely agree. But sometimes testing it without porn but with soft fantasy (about real situations with a real world woman) or even with no fantasy at all (only tactile stimulation) can be of great help. You can check your state if you don't have a partner.
  13. Pete McVries

    Pete McVries Well-Known Member

    Didn't help me a bit. I was testing my erections one day before I had sex for the first time again and couldn't even get half hard. The next night I was able to go two rounds no problem. It's completely different. I would avoid it and it's not a precise tool to measure your progress.
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  14. pebur

    pebur New Member

    Guts, how long do you abstain when the flatline comes and how long does it last in this monthly cycle ? And what do you exactly mean with "the erections last longer than last month's" ? How long do they last ? Can you hold an erection mentally or do you need manual stimulation at this advanced point of the process ?

    I am in an early phase compared to you. Hope to come to the level you are now one fine day. After being unable to get an erection from anything other than porn half a year ago (after more than two decades of porn use) I can get one now by manual stimulation and some soft (real life) fantasy but it isn't stable and disappears quickly (that means within 20 to 30 seconds down to zero) if manual stimulation stops. My problem also is a libido ranging from low to non existent for almost the whole reboot time so far... It is quite discouraging sometimes but one thing for sure: I will NEVER go back to porn.
  15. Guts

    Guts Active Member Staff Member

    I just went 29 days a week ago, half of those 29 days I was in a flatline and the other half I had normal libido/erections so it's about every 2 weeks. I don't need any physical stimulation to get an erection when I'm out of a flatline, currently now they last up to 15 minutes, but it could go longer if I added physical stimulation. I wasn't able to get 100% erections until I hit 10 months. I highly suggest you stop the fantasy. Hope this helps you.

    I thank everyone for their replies.
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  16. pebur

    pebur New Member

    Thanks Guts. Yes, this helps, as reading through your journal does. And ok, I will give stopping fantasy a try.
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  17. Guts

    Guts Active Member Staff Member

    Doing even better. First time i've ever taken a shit with an erection. lol
    It's just wild to think in the past I really only ever had erections when I was masturbating with porn. The conditioning is crazy.
  18. pebur

    pebur New Member

    Guts, positive developments on your AND on my side… Today in the morning I woke up with a 100% boner. It was stable at 100% to 80% for nearly half an hour, I wasn't sexually aroused, not even a bit. I couldn't see this FOR YEARS... Stopped all fantasies ten days ago, as recommended by you :). It is encouraging.
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  19. Battlesword1

    Battlesword1 Active Member

    Hey Guts. Just wanted to stop by and say I read your whole thread and your journey inspired me to start my own journal and partake in this forum. I'm just starting, but journals like yours have given me hope that I can beat this. Thank you sir.
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  20. Guts

    Guts Active Member Staff Member

    That's awesome Battlesword, it's nice to know my journal helps, thank you man. When all this is done I'm going to try and make the most extensive success story, hopefully it will be of great help to others.

    I'm doing really good. About to hit 5 weeks of hard mode and within this time I can only count a few days in one hand that I felt flatlined or just didn't have much libido.

    Just a glance at a woman gives me an instant erection, I've had to pull over on the side of the road sometimes cause its too much lol. And despite all the mess that the coronavirus has done I've been busy and working.

    I think in a few months I will attempt dating, still anxious though.
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