Porn, classical conditioning of accepting other dicks/men

Discussion in 'Pornography Addiction' started by ultrafabber, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber New Member

    If you are unaware of what classical conditioning is, i'll pull out the wikipedia definition which is relatively straight forward and easy to understand



    I should start by saying that psychology, especially in the last decades, has become more of a "opinions and guessing game" so you would be right to take anything psychology says with a grain of salt, however, Classical conditioning is a product of Behavioral Psychology, which is methodical and scientific.

    Classical conditioning has been proven to exist. It is a fact.

    So what's with porn and classical conditioning?

    You have the most powerful stimulus available for humans (sex/orgasm) and the other stimulus. In this case it is watching OTHERS having sex, which includes seeing other men in sexual circumstances and seeing erect penises.



    Basically, seeing and enjoying/masturbating to others have sex is a very abnormal behavior that never happened until 50-something years ago. Yes, there were very few people doing it, but this just shows it was an overwhelming exception. Most males would not see another erect penis in their life, except their own.

    More so, if you are straight, seeing another erect penis should weird you out and turn you off if you were turned on in the first place.

    The only reason you conditioned yourself to accept it and even allow yourself to feel sexual pleasure seeing it is because it was overlapped with the other (most powerful stimulus) - sexually available woman in a sexual situation.

    Before we go further i want to emphasize that seeing others have sex and enjoying it is ABNORMAL and a VERY NEW phenomenon. You were conditioned to accept it because it was the first way you experienced "sex" and sexual pleasure. We're talking about a woman you LIKE and want for yourself that gets f by another man. This should be your biggest TURN OFF, not your turn on. You just lost access to that woman yet you're enjoying losing access (no wonder why cuck porn is so popular).

    Anyway, back on the subject of classical conditioning. Imagine two transparent (plexiglass, sealed) boxes.




      • One has your favorite food in it (maybe for some it's chocolate cake, maybe for others it's a steak, it doesn't matter, you should pick the thing that you find the best). You should imagine it's right in front of you and think of the pleasant feelings it gives you, the anticipation you're going to eat it etc.
      • Put that imaginary box away for a minute.
      • Then in front of you will be placed the other box where there's a pile of fresh shit. That is gross to most and understandably so. Imagine it's in front of you and see how that makes you feel.
      • Put that box away, take a break, then get the box with your favorite food back.
      • Imagine someone puts the box with the shit 3 feet away from your food box. You'll feel a drop in your pleasant feelings. The shit box is then taken away. Then it's put back on, but this time, closer. Taken away again and you get to enjoy 10 seconds of being close to your favorite food. Repeat this over and over again, with different distances and you'll end more accepting with the shit, to a point you will feel pleasure seeing it.
    I used this example because that's what generally happens in a porn movie.




      • You're shown the woman only first (with great focus on her breasts, sexuality etc)
      • She makes (suggestive/sexual) eye contact with the camera (with you).
      • The man is introduced gradually with no emphasis on his body initially.
      • When sex happens, there are alternating shots between desirable frames (woman only) to more disturbing frames that include the erect penis, to the most disturbing of all, seeing sex from 3rd perspective. This is repeated over and over again, with multiple overlaying positive (reinforcing stimuli) woman sexual vocalizations (notice how men are always silent as this would break your conditioning), women eye contact, etc
    Basically every shot can be broken down into positive and (what should be) negative or inhibiting stimuli. The negative stimuli include everything depicting the presence of another man. Then they are mixed up together. I guess i should make a list of each stimuli for my next post.

    It's a very straight forward and EXTREMELY potent classical conditioning. The stimuli are paired hundreds of times in ONE session and the reward is huge. You may not have realized this so far but you really should.

    When you factor in the act of masturbation (you're stroking dick while getting sexual pleasure), the conditioning gets even more potent.

    Like i said before, porn should turn you OFF, not ON.
     
  2. username

    username New Member

    I can totally relate to this.
    When I started watching porn as a kid, I was really put off by the male actor's body and penis. I thought that they must have paid the female a huge amount of money to tolerate that ugly dick.
    At that time, I had "normal" human instincts. Being a male, I was only physically attracted to females and being turned off by females. I had no idea that females are also attracted physically to males just because I didn't know that feeling of being attracted to males.
    Over time, I started to accept the supposedly repulsive male body. I just don't feel turned off by it anymore, even though it used to be extremely disgusting.
    There are articles on YBOP about porn changing sexual orientation. I've also read on another forum a guy complaining about porn making him physically attracted to males. Porn made him gay...
    Who knows how else porn fucks up your mind.
     
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  3. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber New Member

    Same here. I was so disturbed when i saw other dicks on women i didn't even masturbate in the same room. Especially when i saw the cumshot. That was nauseous as f.

    It's so infuriating how i got conditioned to accept them over time, to the point where seeing solo women was offputting and i needed to see women giving blowjobs etc to get aroused.

    there is a huge porn site survey that literally showed that the more porn one consumes, the more likely he is bisexual and not heterosexual. not sure if i can post the link here so google it.
     
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  4. username

    username New Member

    Can't find it on Google. Could you copy and paste a part of it??
     
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    ultrafabber New Member

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  6. occams_razor

    occams_razor Well-Known Member

    Porn warps your sexual tastes temporarily, but quit porn and you should go back to normal.


    "Porn has shown me that I'm attracted to alien squid monsters. If I had never watched porn I might never have known."
     
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