Porn addiction turning straight guys gay?

Discussion in 'Pornography Addiction' started by AnAverageGuy23, May 17, 2014.

  1. AnAverageGuy23

    AnAverageGuy23 New Member

    so I was reading something on YBOP about how some guys had got into gay pornography etc because they're addicted to porn and their brain is craving something new and fresh all of the time. I guess this would be classed as a porn induced fetish, but wouldn't that effectively make them homosexual if that were the case because lots of people with fetiahes porn induced or not act them out, so would this make them more attracted to males. Is it or would it be even possible for porn and mastutbation to do that, why would it happen to some and not every guy? I hope I'm explaining myself correctly, and I don't mean they discover they're gay like suddenly realise their attraction I mean they've had definite attractions to women and only women, sexual relations and found the idea of being with a man unpleasant.
    I mean if they had nothing against people being gay too why would they want to change, it seems quite hard to understand how ones preference could even change genders due to pornpgraphy addiction, what's your opinion on this, entirely possible or not? I do believe it's possible myself but just being a completely different gender makes it that much more extreme and hard to put together!
    Cheers guys!
     
  2. TheHighRiser

    TheHighRiser Shaman, take my hand.

    I think it doesn't matter who you are. Brain is plastic and tastes can morph whether you are the most heterosexual guy or not. I think it's important to recognize that the brain doesn't give a damn about what is normal or not. I don't think porn can turn you gay regarding the feelings but sexual attraction can surely appear. Having real encounters would just make the situation worse. Just stick to what you think it's normal in the real world and in the porn world.
     
  3. chapterx

    chapterx New Member

    The key point here is that there is a difference between a fetish that you have innately, that is, you've always had it and would continue to have it if you were not addicted to porn, and a fetish that you obtain from the 'Coolidge Effect', that is, where your brain gets tired of getting off on the same old stuff and looks for something that is shocking or fear inducing, like gay porn for straight men.

    In theory, porn-induced fetishes would fade away after a reboot/brain rebalance and anything that sticks around after your brain is back to normal is probably a part of your natural sexuality.

    Regarding sexuality, people are not just 'straight' or 'gay' or 'bi', but fall somewhere on a spectrum in between those three categories (Google the Kinsey Scale) - so some people will escalate to gay porn from straight porn more easily than others. If you think about it though, people that are going to feel the most 'fear' or 'shock' from gay porn are people that are completely straight, so in theory it would seem that straight men are more likely to escalate to a gay porn fetish through porn rather than people that fall in other places on the spectrum.
     
  4. AnAverageGuy23

    AnAverageGuy23 New Member

    TheHighRiser, I agree I don't think that it matters who you are either, whether you're, gay, bisexual, straight, transgender, whoever someone is isn't and never will be a concern for me, I was just wondering your thoughts on this and thanks for sharing them!

    Thanks chapterx, I've heard and read about the Kinsey scale but never really thought about it when I was asking the question, I suppose since we are all or many of us aren't completely straight it would make sense that escalation could easily occur to this once the brain wants something different and new.
    So even if this happens to some guys and they weren't too bothered they just enjoyed their new attractions, would the eventuality be that they also get fed up of this too?
     
  5. Assuming the person was straight and only had sexual interest in women, i find it highly unlikely that porn escalation would change that sexual preference. I don't have personal experience with it but i'd imagine that regardless of how intense the gay/trans porn addiction is, that when those habits are broken so is the interest in men/trans.

    "Not that theres anything wrong with that.."
     
  6. AnAverageGuy23

    AnAverageGuy23 New Member

    I should have used a different word or explained better in my post. I don't believe porn could perminately change someone's preferences, like you said once the habit was broken the original interests would return, I mean just escalation from craving new different things to get off too, changing the preferences for a time being
     
  7. Ahuh, fair enough. Yeh i definitely think it can. I think thats quite obvious from a number of guys journals here.

    You just need to look at the variety of porn on the market that aren't natural. Hentai, trans, shit, golden showers and probably dozens and dozens of types of porn i dont even know exist are all examples of escalation. I don't think there'd be many people who naturally like being shit on as a sexual fantasy and if they do it's likely stemmed from a previous (childhood) experience, that sounds weird i know but im sure ive heard of someone developing a shit fantasy from something that happened in childhood.

    It's looks to be as simple as the brain seeking a consistent source of dopamine and when one stimulus ceases to provide enough it seeks out a novel source thats different or more extreme.
     
  8. NotAnymore

    NotAnymore New Member

    I think it can. But only because the society. I mean if you where addicted or fantasys to/about gay porn and are an easy going person to make your 'dream come trough'. By time everyone around you will know it and the way back to be a straight guy is very unlikely.

    I dont think a woman is waiting for someone who likes to have seks with gays, even if he can only fall in love with a woman.

    Pure addiction, nothing more and nothing less.
     
  9. Gonnabeatthis

    Gonnabeatthis New Member

    I don't think it's possible.

    I was a hardcore addict and a sick fuck when I was addicted, but never ever I had one single gay thought in my life. I watched every kind of porn, but gay porn was never appealing.
    And I even watched bestiality for some time, so escalation was there. But I always was disgusted about watching gay porn, even in my darkest hours.

    So I think if you aren't at least bisexual you cannot turn gay by porn addiction.

    I mean, I have never heard a straight guy say, "hey I wonder how it is to suck cock / get a dick up your ass".

    If you aren't inherently disgusted by this, you have some gayness in you.
     
  10. Tea-man

    Tea-man Member

    Well, are we talking 'actually turning gay', or 'getting turned on by gay porn'. Because you're sort of talking about both in the above. I agree that you won't turn gay from watching porn, but you can definitely be turned on by gay porn and have gay thoughts from it. If you are claiming that it is impossible to be turned on by gay porn if you are straight (which is how I interpreted the above - I apologise if I am wrong), by the same logic, someone could say you are naturally a bit of a sheep fucker lol. I think human psychology is too complicated to generalise like that though (And I don't think you are haha)

    Personally, I am straight, but when I was at my worst I did try watching gay porn and ... yeah, I also got absolutely nothing out of it. It was just weird. But even though I am turned off by men, the idea of sucking dick was almost an obsession at some point. I think that was due to straight porn to be honest - I was watching a lot of porn but you never see the guys, just dicks, so I think you can start to wire. Also - reading erotica was bad. The thought process of doing something 'wrong', and the idea of submission etc, was a massive turn on, and in text there is nothing to turn you off visually.

    Obviously, there can be a big difference in what turns you on in your head and reality, so I think you're right in the sense that you cannot actually turn gay. But I can understand getting turned on by gay porn, having gay thoughts etc. Personally, the porn was a turn off for me, though I would understand if someone claimed to be straight but watched gay porn.
     
  11. Gonnabeatthis

    Gonnabeatthis New Member

    Lol, I would be a sheep myself (or a horse, dog) fucking a woman at my worst, not a sheep fucker. ;D

    But, every type of porn I watched involved women, they were at the center of attention.
    So I don't get how someone who says he is straight takes away the one thing that turns him on out of the whole equation. It doesn't make sense.
    Watching gays, at best, does nothing to me, at worst I am about to puke.

    So when someone continues to be aroused in the absence of women, it is safe to say that he was bisexual (bi-curious?) to begin with.
    Or that he subconsciously had fantasies that involved men.
     
  12. Striveforpurity

    Striveforpurity All praise and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ.

    It's actually very simple to understand. People choose to be gay.

    Because of our sin nature every human has the capacity to have unnatural same-sex attractions. A person may decide to call themselves gay or bisexual if they decide to start living a homosexual lifestyle.

    Lust is fueled by porn so it is very easy for the porn addicted person to start having homosexual desires when the heterosexual porn is no longer enough to fulfill the lusts of the flesh. The whole thing is a downward spiral that leads to deeper and deeper levels of depravity.

    Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
     
  13. NotAnymore

    NotAnymore New Member

    Agree with this guy
     
  14. NotAnymore

    NotAnymore New Member

    By the way, i think nobody is 100% Straight...
    If you go back to the old Greeks, it was very often that a guy had a male- seks partner next to his wife.
    You can see it too to some animals
     
  15. Striveforpurity

    Striveforpurity All praise and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Did u read my post?
     
  16. goingforward

    goingforward Keep calm and carry on!

    Human's brain is plastic so i think it is possible to make a straight guy gay and conversely
     
  17. NotAnymore

    NotAnymore New Member

    Now, yes :p

    My first language is not English, so i could not save it al in my memory.
     
  18. NotAnymore

    NotAnymore New Member

    I think it is true for a lot of people, but still, why do have some people real (non- seksual) feeling for a same gender.
     
  19. zig!zag!

    zig!zag! New Member

    i could get into another one of those debates that gets the topic locked but im just gunna tell you that you are wrong at the 8000 word essay you are gunna right about it is bulllshit
     
  20. Cozmo

    Cozmo Member

    i would say that i agree with many points, disgree in others

    but i would say that alot of an*l scenes, many c*cks , c*ckolding some sort of this shit, BDSM..etc

    i think it normalize our reaction from gross or unattractive TO Normal TO attracted with time.
     

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