_______ EDIT: I adjusted the title to not crowd the forum with new posts, so this one will serve as my log/journal. _______ I'm still getting acquainted with some concepts on this forum. One thing I keep reading is about the harm of fantasy. There seems to be many contributors who beat themselves up over thinking about banging their local barista. If these young men are referring to clearing their minds of the visuals from their porn use, I would understand-- but it seems to be abstinence from any sexual thoughts. I understand that for some people fantasy and PMO are strongly linked, but... As men in our 30's, who experienced sex before the novelty of high-speed internet porn, fantasy shouldn't seem like such a detriment to our success. It's something we do naturally. I'm not saying that it's okay to try and think back to the 'BONER JAMS '07'--- but to use fantasy to the extent it will give you that 'half chub' while your walking around. Apply it in healthy ways (for instance women you flirt with). Why do I say this? Because of the 'use it or lose it' principal. I believe that if the mind completely abstains, and carries on that way for 500+ days, you're possibly doing yourself some harm (unless of course you're still having sex while rebooting). What do you guys think?