Mephamphetamine to cure PIED!

Discussion in 'Erectile Dysfunction / Delayed Ejaculation' started by Pornfreesmee, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. Pornfreesmee

    Pornfreesmee Member

    Hey guys,

    I know the theory for us young guys suffering from PIED taking way longer is sexual conditioning during adolescence, but what if for some of us our reward circuit/dopamine signalling remained desentisized after quitting and no matter how much time passes won't return to normal. Since joining this site a year ago Ive come across multiple stories of guys 2, 3 , 4 and 6 years no PMO in my case who are still suffering from PIED/flatlinining.

    I came across this recovery story on YBOP a few months ago:

    This guys went 5 months no PMO and still had ED issues, he got depressed and used crystal meth on a single occasion and 3 days later his ED was cured. He links a study in his story of mice addicted to meth :

    'Basically they had rats addicted to meth (which acts on the D2 in the striatum just like porn addiction does!) and then after discontinuing their brains would never completely normalize in that region. But they learned that just giving them the drug one more time only at a later date reversed and normalized the function. Like it jumpstarted it back into function'

    I wonder if the same thing would work with a single time use of cocaine considering it acts on the same part of the brain as meth/porn. Meth is supposed to raise dopamine 1200 times above normal and cocaine 500 times above normal.

    What do you guys think?
  2. pewpew

    pewpew New Member

    This story sounds like a load of bs. OP just happens to have meth on him lol. So you're telling me he hasn't smoked it before and noticed results?
  3. Pornfreesmee

    Pornfreesmee Member

    Your guess is as good as mine. Don't really know what the guy would have to gain by lying ...
  4. Complex

    Complex Member

    I've done coke many times and its very hard to achieve an erection. my friends can fuck with drugs because they have the right pathways
  5. jack91

    jack91 Find your way throuh Staff Member

    hmm of course that strikes as complete woodoo and probably is such but lets wonder about the possibility for a second
    Meth and moving around are linked, anything that i have gathered, meth fills you up with dopamine and usually with higher dozes it makes moving around stiff and hard. Moving and function of body are affected but in positive way? nah..
    it really makes you lose function rather that increase it, if meth works why not pure dopamine that are used for some motor control loss diseases?

    and another side is that meth lowers one libido, another reason why that is long shot just like that snake woodoo drug they feed in mexico to despaired drug addicts looking for easy way out for their addiction problems, in a scientific way that is pretty desperate shot.

    Try 3 years nofap, no MO streak i assure you it have much better chance of success

    yet another thing to add, i used meth back at 3 months out of pmo and mo, no success of any kind mate, it was fucking horrible, pounding in my head was insane and i had hours and hours intense, very intense need to MO, to release semen in some way, with all that i had i somehow survived without fapping but it was not anything someone should do, just brain storm. Its poison, meth that is. Not a cure!!
  6. Pornfreesmee

    Pornfreesmee Member

    Yeah Ive used cocaine before when I was younger and it made it more difficult for me to achieve an erection aswell. I was more thinking if you used it just once after a period away from any porn masturbation or orgasm and then never take again.
  7. Pornfreesmee

    Pornfreesmee Member

    Yeah there's no doubt about it, Meth is a nasty drug with a lot of negative effects both health wise and for sexual performance in the long run. I was more thinking of a one time use and then never use again. Meth and cocaine both work on the same parts of the brain as sex/porn so not sure if another dopamine raising agent would have the same effect. In the study of the mice addicted readministation had the opposite effect on the brain :

    "Most recently, researchers using mice discovered that although simply discontinuing use of the drug does not return the brain to its pre-addicted state, the brain does return to its pre-addicted after a reintroduction of the drug, in effect "resetting" the system. These results were obtained from mice given methamphetamines for 10 days, which translates into about 2 years of human use. After the mice had been in withdrawal, a single final dose produced the noted the results. These results are believed to have some correlation with other neurons found in the striatum that release acetylcholine: methamphetamines cause increased release of dopamine, which depresses acetylcholine levels, which in turn causes a depression of glutamate levels, resulting in the depression of information flow in the brain. Re-administration of methamphetamines after a period of withdrawal, however, somehow has the reverse effect on the acetylcholine produces neurons. Consequently, research is underway to locate and identify this neuronal "reset button".

    Its a long shot I know especially if it didn't work for you on that single time use but after 6 years no PMO maybe its time to try something different...
  8. jack91

    jack91 Find your way throuh Staff Member

    i misunderstood you i assumed you barely had streak going on at all but now i notice that you are 6 years to nofap gosh man!!
    what am i missing? year to no MO, ? interesting, so have that time to less than year ago been heavy MO time? you stopped masturbating to porn six years ago but continued masturbation normal way?

    what are you trying to do? cure pied? what is wrong anyway ??

    try cialis out it should work momentarily at least and if it doesnt work, it gives you some sort of answer whether the problem is pied related or not, because as i have understood it porn rewired our sexuality towards pixels and screens thats why dick dont respond to normal girls but it doesnt fuck up our blood circulary systems or anything brain related to extent that cialis or viagra would not give you boner.

    just wondered through some of your earlier posts and sometimes things just go forward in very slow phase, its always best to try your own body heal the issue by itself so what i do recommend is years long no drugs no o streak, gotta play hard ball with this one, it takes time but dont even chase sex or highs for that matter before your body feels that it is ready. brain is most slow organ to get better from any sort of injury or abuse, let it heal and let it heal for long time and dont harrash it at all. Do thousand days no O streak. Dont use alcohol or tobacco either and forget about sex in general. Even better would be on occasion just cuddle and whatnot but not have sex. Sounds like recovering brain would love that. lissen your body
  9. Pornfreesmee

    Pornfreesmee Member

    During the last six years I have continued to O regularly whilst in this flatline. In the first two years mostly O's from masturbation with fantasy and in the last four years mostly Os from Sex with occasional MO without fantasy. I was in a 3.5 year relationship during the time and have also dated multiple women/one night stands. For a more detailed breakdown of my story

    Yeah Im still suffering with PIED/PE and no libido. I have used ED drugs in the past, I used cialis for the first year of my 3.5 year relationship but It no longer works. I have to use max dose 100mg viagra to get an effect from ED drugs and get nasty side effects like red face and nasal congestion.The problem is in my brain thats why ED drugs have lost their effect. My natural ability is actually better now than when ED drugs worked better. I can get 70/80 percent hard at best naturally for very short periods from kissing and have to rush to penetrate when I attempt sex and orgasms give me brain fog/low mood symptoms. Whats strange is that I do get weak morning wood/spontaneous erections following an O from sex for a few days.

    Yeah I think you're right.Im at the stage where I have no other option really other than to just to continue abstaining and wait it out. I could mask the problem with Viagra but I fear Im just keeping myself in a rut forcing sex when I have no sex drive. I live a very healthy lifestyle and don't smoke/do drugs and only drink 1-2 times per month maximum. My longest no O streak is 6 months and until two weeks ago I was 5.5 months no O, so maybe I need a year or longer uninterrupted without O to heal.
  10. Pornfreesmee

    Pornfreesmee Member

    Just to close this thread off; after some great difficult In sourcing it, I finally managed to attempt this method to reverse my flatline. Unfortunately it didn't work for me!

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