Masturbation is for losers

Discussion in 'Pornography Addiction' started by Striveforpurity, Jul 16, 2015.

  1. Striveforpurity

    Striveforpurity All praise and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ.

    If there is one fundamental truth I've learned since trying to stop PMO it's this. And I've realized that I don't want to be a loser anymore.

    I will even go out on a limb and say successful people in life are not masturbators. It saps your energy, time, and commitment to God...

    Now it's a question of how can I practically eliminate this loser habit from my life. I believe once I do that I'll start being a winner in life and I'm not purely talking financially.
     
  2. Deleted User

    Deleted User Guest

    Start by not calling yourself a loser. When you devalue yourself you create anger/resentment, and this fuels your addiction.

    You need to shift your mindset. Remind yourself that if God exists as you believe, he is a God of forgiveness, love for all of his creatures (including you) so give yourself some of that forgiveness and love, and your addiction will magically disappear (yes - for real).
     
  3. Panonymos

    Panonymos Humility is a virtue

    Masturbation is for kids. I think masturbation can be useful at an early age when one is descovering him/herself and sexuality.
    Our problem is that frustration and negative emotions pushed us towards abusing this behavior and it became compulsive. And we need to forgive ourselves for that indeed as Newnes points out.

    Now we are not kids anymore. Sex is the ultimate expression of love. And love we do need as humans. Love and affection are genuine human needs.
    If we keep masturbating (or any other behavior that is used to numb the pain we inherently have) then we stay wankers and can't develop.
    As men, we need to behave like men and do our best to contribute to ourselves, the people that love us and to the society. I say that we have better things to do than jerking off, or looking for a cheap fuck.

    Come on Striveforpurity. We are not giving anything up. We are simply choosing to do something far better every day. Cheers!
     
  4. Striveforpurity

    Striveforpurity All praise and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Are you friggin serious? Masturbation is the gateway to porn addiction so I don't know how you could ever say that its useful for kids. I know for personal experience that if I never discovered masturbation I would not have sought out porn.
     
  5. Panonymos

    Panonymos Humility is a virtue

    ALL my friends have masturbated, some more some less. None of them became a porn addict. I did.
    Excessive masturbation and porn use was a coping mechanism for me. Not the cause of my problems.

    By "kids", I mean teenagers of course.
     
  6. Choice-R-Us

    Choice-R-Us New Member

    Masturbation and sex are neutral and have no inherent deeper meaning, apart from the meaning you are giving them within your set of morals and the culture you live in. The USA is extremely sex-negative and sex-phobic, therefore a perfect breeding ground for vage concepts like porn addiction and sex addiction.

    It may be true, that within your context and from your point of view, it might appear that masturbation is for losers. However once you change that perspective to another one, preferrably a less judgemental sex-positive one, this would simply vanish. No fundamental truth here, only context and complex issues.

    If you are therefore hoping, that by stopping masturbation you suddenly become a "winner" (the underlying mechanism being magic), you are wasting your time.
     
  7. Striveforpurity

    Striveforpurity All praise and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ.

    1) I do not live in the USA.
    2) The only type of "positive-sex" is within marriage.
    3) Masturbation IS for losers and I'm not really the only one saying this.
    4) I think stopping masturbation will make me a winner as it gives me the chance to be at my full potential. That is not magic it's just common sense.
    5) I will take a guess here and say that you are either a fatty-patty feminist or a homosexual. Am I right?
     
  8. Panonymos

    Panonymos Humility is a virtue

    Striveforpurity, it is far better being a wanker than being a jerk. So, please keep masturbating.

    Stop insulting people.
     
  9. Choice-R-Us

    Choice-R-Us New Member

    As I said, true within and only within your cultural context. You obviously lack the capacity to tolerate views on the world outside yours. It is too easy to see what the problem with your way of thinking is and where it is coming from. Just remember, that religious people are about twice as likely to self-diagnose as sex-addict / porn-addict than non-religious folk. These are replicated results btw, look it up if you want to. Mostly a cultural phenomenon - and a coping mechanism to deal with the sin/shame - or in your case being a loser.

    Why would you care if I am a feminist (I am male...) or a homosexual (I actually had sex with my gf four hours ago, so better ask if I am bi...)? Do you want to hook up or are you just a homophobe? Don't worry, you don't give off the vibe of someone who I'd like to expand my fluid sexuality with.
     
  10. leoncaruthers

    leoncaruthers New Member

    Ignore the fedoras. Your thoughts on this are entirely correct, Striveforpurity. It's the habit of a person without self control and an addiction to unearned pleasures.
     
  11. Wabi-sabi

    Wabi-sabi Imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete

    Can we just say that masturbation, like skateboarding and wearing a ball cap backwards, is something people should grow out of by a certain age.

    I think the OP is right to say this is all behind him - it's juvenile - but it's dangerous to talk about being a loser for doing it. Self-hatred, or any anger really, just leads to relapse. I'd recommend seeing it as unskillful behaviour.

    BTW I tend to see porn addiction as separate from masturbation - my ED never stopped me surfing porn.
     
  12. Beowulf

    Beowulf Member

    "5) I will take a guess here and say that you are either a fatty-patty feminist or a homosexual. Am I right?"

    Haven't seen much trolling on yourbrainrebalanced before.....
     
  13. finoff

    finoff New Member

    Yep, (P)MO is for losers. Most of times I've relapsed I've done it when I felt bad and depressed and inferior to other people and I've sometimes had my kicks thinking other people having fun while I can't get any of it.

    It's a sort of self fulfilling cycle.
     
  14. bucketter

    bucketter Guest

    This post makes no sense to me. First off all masturbaition is one of the most natural and long living things humans and animals have done, no matter who you are, male or female, everyone has masturbaitied at some point in their life and some men and women even masturbait when they are in relationship ls or even when married, There's quotes from the BIBLE that talk about women using gold and silver to masturbait with, so what I guess 90% of everyone who has ever lived is a loser huh? And let's not even talk about the health benefits that are proven to come with occasional masturbaition.Come on man. Just because you and some people here have overused the practice and created problems for yourself now everyone who does it no matter what frequency is just a loser?
     
  15. finoff

    finoff New Member

    Abstaining from MO is a temporary solution that significantly enhances withdrawing from porn addiction. It is not expected that anyone here abstains their whole life - 3-6 months at max of no MO at some very extreme cases. Idea is to abstain from porn.

    But I see a point in that (M)O'ing only with another person will make people wanting to contact with other people.
     
  16. Striveforpurity

    Striveforpurity All praise and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Try masturbating then looking a girl in the face.
     
  17. Striveforpurity

    Striveforpurity All praise and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ.

    First of all it's called "masturbate" not "masturbait". Secondly please quote me the verses of woman using gold/silver to masturbate with (that's a new one for me). Thirdly there are ZERO health benefits to occasional masturbation. Masturbation is a SELFISH and HOMOSEXUAL act. That is the truth of the matter.
     
  18. TheBorb

    TheBorb Bullshit detector

    Cutting a swathe through all the balls I've read on here but one fact remains...

    ...Striveforpurity...you refer to masturbators as "losers"...yet you do not come across as a "winner" yourself. I do not want to be like you, nor do you sound like the sort of friend I'd care to have. You are locked. You only have a loud, angry voice, bitter, trapped and locked. Locked so hard. I'm not saying your points are completely wrong but the way in which you deal with people makes you seem like some lone, alienated madman shouting obscenities at cars from a traffic island.

    You only seek to divide. Divide, divide, divide, ad nauseam. Why?

    You are quite articulate, though. Your locked outlook - if tampered with healthily - could possibly make you a much cooler person. And you could still be anti-masturbation. No need to be a stupid, divisive cunt all the time. You could learn to like yourself and be liked by many. Then people might want to follow you (???).
     
  19. rebooting

    rebooting Member

    http://www.yourbrainrebalanced.com/index.php?topic=30658.0

     

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