Kegels & The Five G's

Discussion in 'Erectile Dysfunction / Delayed Ejaculation' started by wilder, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. wilder

    wilder Member

    Hey all. Just checking but has anyone ever tried any of these during the reboot?

    I don't know too much about kegels but I have seen online that it helps with blood flow to the penis, as well as a heck of a lot more benefits. I figured this could possibly a way to help with getting or at least maintaining an erection?

    Also, the Five G's can be found here: http://www.pegym.com/forums/erectile-dysfunction-forum/10786-five-gs-big-erections.html

    I read that the concoction listed above is great for helping with libido and other health issues. Has anyone ever tried that? Did it work? Do you see any downside to trying it?

    My goal is not to need drugs to get an erection, but I'm not so sure I see an issue with the Five G's drink seeing as it is composed of a lot of substance people consume on a daily basis, without issue.

    At the same time I'm not great with this whole "theoretical" approach to ED, and feel as though hearing other peoples experiences in regards to trying these things is more beneficial than just reading from random forums that "it helps". Because honestly, chances are that they don't actually help people suffering from flatline symptoms and the one's that say they do have no idea what a flatline is.

    Thanks, can't wait to hear from you guys :)
     
  2. gameover

    gameover Age: 26

    Problem with PIED is its in the brain its not a blood flow issue. Kegals only help with pelvic floor issues/conditioning.
     
  3. Kegels are great for improving your sexual performance, but it takes consistent dedication to improve the muscle. A few times a week for 5 minutes or less will have your PC control improved immensely. But as gameover said if your suffering from pied it won't cure that, though it's a good practice in conjunction with all the other things needed to be done to beat this addiction.

    The 5 g's looks like it could work, though all the ingredients are effective for general health im suspicious that the general aim of the mix is to act as a thermogenic raising your heart rate-blood flow.
     
  4. wilder

    wilder Member

    I should specific things more.. I'm not suffering so much from PIED now as I am low libido.

    Thanks for the feedback though.
     
  5. Mart71

    Mart71 Guest

    I tried using these 5G in the early stages (first two months) of my reboot, when I was really desperate. They didn't have any effect for me, so I stopped.
     
  6. wilder

    wilder Member

    By chance were you going through hard flaccid or flatline?
     
  7. Mart71

    Mart71 Guest

    Yeah. Don't know if I had a "hard flaccid" per se - I had that shrunken dick thing, if that is it. And it didn't respond to anything, which is what I considered a flatline.
     
  8. wilder

    wilder Member

    Alright, that's good to know.

    My issue isn't so much a serious flatline.. it's more-so a slower reboot and lowered EQ (erection quality). For about 45 days though I did have strong libido, but I may have O'd too much and now the reboot is taking time to recover.

    In the mean time I thought about natural remedies that might help my reboot but wanted to avoid anything that might screw me up internally.
     
  9. pranayama

    pranayama New Member

    I wanted to let you guys know I have had success keeping flat line symptoms away with penis enlargement techniques. I followed JP's 90 day routine on pegym.I think its the jelqing and keeping blood in the penis that helps keep the dead penis symptoms away.

    While i dont have PIED, I can have less than ideal erection quality.I think it might be worth a shot for some people to try these techniques with no pmo. The routine suggest edging but I'm avoiding that until I hit at least 90 days.
     
  10. wilder

    wilder Member

    Noted. I am less-so suffering from PIED now as I am bad EQ.
     
  11. Gruznbyrg

    Gruznbyrg New Member

    The five Gs sound alright though it doesn't seem like there was a tremendous amount of thought put into picking them. Basically someone just looked around for herbs starting with the letter G and found five that might be helpful for ED.

    I think increasing nitric oxide through diet/beet juice/citrulline/whatever is a more promising route to harder erections. However, as is always stated in the supplement threads, PIED is not a blood flow or nitric oxide deficiency and these sort of things are at best only slightly helpful. Logically, if you wanted to spend money on supplements, you could buy a nootropic like sulbutiamine or citicoline that has some research linking it to improvements in ED/addiction/dopamine/etc.

    I've taken citrulline malate to help with training and I think at high doses I hang a bit fuller. Citrulline might help with the shrivelled up flatline symptom. However, I don't know whether you'd want to help with that. It might be best to let the body regulate itself.

    I've also taken sulbutiamine (300mg/d/mo) and I liked the subtle energy it gave me and think it made me more outgoing, but I didn't notice a big difference erection wise, though I didn't have a partner to test it out with.

    So I guess I'd recommend saving your money, but if you got a hole burning in your pocket citrulline + a nootropic stack seems to make some sense.

    Regarding the kegels, alot of people here including myself seem to have problems with overworked pelvic floors. It seems like the best theory of the 'hard flaccid' phenomenon is that it's a result of a tense overworked pelvic floor. If this seems like you, I highly recommend that you not do any kegels.
     
  12. wilder

    wilder Member

    I appreciate the feedback.

    I am not suffering from a shrived up penis or any serious flatline, my reboot time is just slow right now. I can get about 75% hard sometimes but never the full 100%. My penis is also usually in "normal" mode - not shriveled up or seeming to have life sucked out of it.

    Basically just not getting great erections and want better EQ.

    I'll look into what you said and keep in mind the information you provided regarding the 5 G's.

    Again - thank you very much. :)
     
  13. Gruznbyrg

    Gruznbyrg New Member

    You're welcome.

    If you're interested in supplementation for better EQ, I think this website has some good ideas: http://peaktestosterone.com/. You can browse through articles by subject if you use the links on the left hand side of the page. He has a lot on hormones -- which I think people sometimes obsess about, but can't hurt to check -- but he also has a lot just on erectile health in general.
     
  14. wilder

    wilder Member

    @Above: Thank you very much - I'll look into that for sure.


    As to report my current findings.. I recently have been taking the Ginseng. I take anywhere from 2 - 3 doses of it (American Ginseng) per day - 1,000 MG per dose. As of right now I noticed that it definitely does some work on providing some blood to any "dead dick", but it does not make me more attracted to your choice in female/male.

    All good though because it surely has helped me get passed the stage where I cannot get an erection. :)
     
  15. confusedguy

    confusedguy Member

    As someone said above, many of us have tired, over-worked, tight pelvic floors. They may be weak and in need of strengthening exercises, but that's for a specialist to diagnose. Even if they're weak it's generally not advisable to do kegels without first stretching out the tight muscle and performing trigger point therapy to relax it. Otherwise you'll just make the spasm worse.

    Trust me, I went through all this HF and pelvic floor stuff before. Still haven't fixed it but with stretching and therapy I was getting much better.

    Success with kegels seems to be limited to older men who may have weaker muscles in general, not necessarily tense ones.

    If you were constant leg cramps, you wouldn't go jump on the leg press would you?
     

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