Hello fellas. I could have/sometimes feel like I should have replied to this much sooner but...reasons. I appreciate your thoughtful replies. I have had the greatest reluctance to try the ED drugs...but at my age and with my track record, I may have to rethink it. I won't get a perscrip due to nothing being physically wrong and having to admit the need to my female (!) doctor, although her gender wouldn't even matter in the end. But I also worry about becoming dependent on them. Sigh...well, research if nothing else is my forte. Fiddler, thank you. This means a lot coming from you. And I'm happy to say that I agree and am starting to come over strongly to this perspective too. I'll say more below in detail. I think HPMOF, that it was you most directly who set me on this newer area of learning which influenced your reply...and even though I have some reservations about what you wrote, I now understand it a bit better, and hope to understand better still. Read on please. Canada, I admit here that I was a bit stung by the tone of your reply. It's not your fault though, really, and of course you're also making a lot of sense. I forgot to mention something before about FitnessGirl - she actually did want to get together with me this month. But, we had a conflict - I have a wedding to go to. And no, she couldn't be my date unfortunately. About the substance and merits of what you all wrote however- well: First just quickly, I'll reiterate that I'm not especially invested in restarting anything regular or sexual with FitnessGirl. I wouldn't object, but she's not my best prospect, plus, mostly as I said I'm just excited about the opportunity to reassemble the pieces of a relationship with a woman on any level, growth is what I'd call this. But most important - I finally did something I believe HPMOF said I should months ago. I started reading "Models: Attract Women Through Honesty" by Mark Manson. Yeah, I know, here goes DW burying his beak in yet another advice/guidance/self-help book, will anything come if it, blah blah... ...but this one could prove to be extremely important. I wish I'd read it when it was first published a few years ago. If I had, it's possible I'd be in a different place now. I don't mean to act (although I can't help it I suppose) as if this is the newest, shiniest object with all the answers and accept it unquestionably. But there is a lot of truth in that book, page after page where I recognize myself and my challenges. And it's making a whole lot of sense to me. I intend to read it several times quickly, really assimilate what it says, and make small, realistic, short-term action plan after action plan to implement what it says. For those who haven't heard of it, or what it says, I'd sum it up thusly: with women, be real, be as bold as possible and appropriate, and by being vulnerable in the right way, risking and not allowing your ego to fear rejection, you can succeed. One of the reasons I know it's substantive and justly acclaimed is because I realize in retrospect that whatever modest successes I've had with women were when I was doing many of the things he suggests as a sporadic "natural." The last few years, I've been in retreat (sometimes necessary, sometimes not). That's got to end, and the book I think gives the best, most logical and persuasive reasons on how to put a stop to it. He even overlaps to an extent with the no-PMO path in there, advising P be jettisoned and F for only women we know but haven't fucked, or see in real life that we don't know yet. We mostly advise here against F, but I'm willing to experiment with this. Also, it seems I've been accidentally following his once a week MO advice (mostly). Wish me strength.