Farewell happy place

Discussion in 'Ages 30-39' started by Living, Jan 31, 2018.

  1. Living

    Living Well-Known Member

    Day 95: pornwise I'm pretty stable, but I do notice the COVID-19 thing kicking in a bit more. I get less work, which is not all that troublesome per se. Although I'd rather not, I can make use of the benefits of living in a welfare state and it does give me time think about career too. When you constantly work you don't have a lot of time to make steps on a new path. And it's a good thing to have some time for some other things I find important. The drawback is that it does make me restless. The work situation wasn't very secure in the first place, but this adds to the insecurity. That gives stress too. Besides that I notice I get stressed by how some people handle the COVID-19 situation. The company I work for is pretty strict about things and really tries to apply the recommendations from government, but this week I was working with people from a different company and it was like there was no COVID-19 at all. Same when I would take a walk in the park in front of my house: sure, it is less crowded than normal, but half of the people that visit the park act like nothing is going on. Ofcourse, it's different when I take a walk or run early in the morning, but in the afternoon it's just plain annoying. I really agree with our 'intelligent lock down' (as our government calls it), but it would be nice if the unintelligent people (including university students) went along with it:)

    Reason why I am doing this:
    -Because doing otherwise makes no sense.

    Three good things:
    -I don't think porn really has a big effect on my daily life. My phone use does though. Now I'm not the most active person on my phone anyway, but I know I use it way more than I should. It's like I constantly feel like I might miss something important if I don't check my phone like a hundred times a day. Sometimes I don't even notice I do it, it has become a total automatism. Same with email and to lesser extent even using this forum. I have this constant feeling that something might come my way and I need to respond it immediately. That's not really all that healthy, is it? Besides it costs a lot of time. I think I'm on my phone easily over an hour a day. And it;s not like I have loads of spare time. I have considered ditching my smart phone, but I do like to keep Whatsapp because that does play an important role in my social life. I considered getting a dumb phone for daily use and look at my smart phone when I get home, reply to the messages and get going again. I decided I'm going to do that if I can't learn to considerably cut down my phone use, but that right now I'm going to learn to get some control.
    So I did a couple of things. One of the things is that I looked at things I use my phone for that I don't really need to use my phone for. I don't need it as an alarm for example and I don't need to use as stopwatch when I do my workout (I am actually able to count to 30 when I plank). I deleted a whole bunch of apps from my phone that I don't really need. Not everything, because there are still things I like. I guess I could do without HeadSpace and just meditate without guidance or use guided meditations on a Mediaplayer, but using Headspace is one of the things I don't find too big a deal. Second I made phone less appealing: I switched to monochrome :eek:. Besides that I have installed Unlock Clock which is a wallpaper by Google that adds a number each time I unlock my phone. I also added a note on my unlock screen asking 'Do I really need this right now'. Last I made some rules for myself. No phone use before breakfast and no phone use on the toilet. That last one might seem trivial, but it's one of those instances where you just simply use your phone because you got nothing else to do and then spend more time on the toilet than you planned:) That is really something that I would like to unlearn. And I try to keep my phone use to 10 unlocks a day. That's something that really works for me this far because it makes me a lot more consious about my phone use. If I want to use it I have to consider if I need to do that right now or perhaps wait till a later moment when I will check my phone for other things. And I keep track of this on Habitica which is ironically on my phone:) I have been doing this for less than a week now, but this far it seems promissing. I have cut down my phone use considerably and sometimes even unlock it less than 10 times. Ofcourse I haven't seen any fundamental changes yet, but I do believe that I will start noticing differences.
    -I've never been someone that needed a lot of social interaction, but these days I do sometimes miss it. Last week I did an online pubquiz with some of my friends and that was just straight awesome. The quiz was aired on YouTube and we would discuss the answers on Zoom. Although I was a bit sceptic about the whole videocall thing (and yes, I had to get out of my comfort zone), we actually had a really good time. I actually had so much fun that I would consider continuing this with friends that live further off when the crisis is over.
    -I bought some proper binoculars so I can properly spy on my neighbours:) Lol, no, I've wanted to get some good quality binoculars for a while now because, well, I like birds (as in the flying animals). My dad gave me a set of old binoculars he had a few years ago (which was really nice), but it didn't improve the view all that much. I thought there must be a reason why people pay money for binoculars, so I thought it might be worth it to go to my local camera shop that also sells binoculars. Getting a good pair costs a bit, but it's well worth it. Now I understand why people actually pay hundreds of euro's for a set of binoculars. Mine didn't cost that much, but I bought a solid midrange set and it's actually pretty spectacular. Going to try it out tomorrow in a nature reserve just outside of the city:)
     
  2. Gil79

    Gil79 Seize the day

    Totally agree with you. I live in a very touristic area and so many holiday houses are full again and people (with age risk) are cycling everywhere. It is just waiting for the next peak.....

    :DLOL
     
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  3. -Luke-

    -Luke- Well-Known Member

    I hear you on the phone thing. Unfortunately I found a way to bypass every restrictions I set on my phone (including porn filters for example) by accident. I also considered going back to a dumb phone (Sigh! That was cool when you had to charge the battery like once a week despite playing Snake for two hours a day...), but the one thing is WhattsApp and the other thing is I want to go into app development.

    The Unlock Clock sounds like a good idea. I'll look into that. Thanks for the advice!

    The rules that seem trivial at first can sometimes make a big difference. Too often we think we have to change everything and overwhelm ourselves by overdoing it with rules. It's easier to start with something small. And more often than not we'll already see a difference as a result.
     
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  4. Living

    Living Well-Known Member

    Thanx for the replies guys! @-Luke-: perhaps you don't need to ditch all of your phone use. I mean, I'm not anti-smartphone, I just use it for a lot of that are just a waste of time. I think my biggest issue is how I have the idea that the most important things in the world are new emails, new apps, new news etc and that I constantly need to check my phone for that. But these things don't dissolve when you wait an extra couple of hours. They are not cute little puppies that will die when you rather pay attention to things you find more important. One other thing I did for example is I added a two-step-verification to my email: that means that even on my desktop I need my phone to check my email. But because I keep my phone in a different room and I try to keep my phone use limited to 10 unlocks, I don't constantly check my email. The last couple of days I maybe checked it like two or three times a day and that was mainly because I am waiting for a particular email that does have some urgency. But what I want to go to is checking my email once a day. And you know, I think I will survive that:)

    This morning I had some fantasies and something interesting happened that I have noticed before. As it often happens with my fantasies is part of me starts to consider porn. You know, I start to come up with interesting searches and all. But then I realize is that I have my blockers installed and I pretty much gave up the idea. What I like about that is that I installed the blockers as an extra hurdle, but it seems that knowing the blockers are there is an extra hurdle in itself too. That was really good to notice!

    Reason why I am doing this:
    -I want to be a good version of myself. It doesn't have to be the best version of myself, but a version I am okay with. A version that I enjoy and like being and on who I can be proud.

    Three good things:
    -Birding! Everybody should buy binocuolars and get out there (in a safe way ofcourse). This is just awesome. Experiencing nature and wild life just became even more deep. I bought the binoculars on friday and I was going to do some cycling with my girlfriend the next day. Now I'm a pretty traditional forest guy: I like trees and I like song birds. A meadow in the forest makes me delighted, but there have to be a lot of trees. But proper forest is kind of hard to find where I live, so we went to this pretty extensive wetland nature reserve. It's actually a cool place because it draws a whole lot of wildlife, but 90% are ducks, geese and gulls. For a forest guy like me that didn't sound appealing. However we went there and first we started in an area with a lot of sedge and there we spotted several sedge warblers, reed buntings (both birds I had never consiously seen like that) and two stonechats. But these were songbirds, so I could live with that. So we moved a bit further and saw some goldfinches. Still songbirds. And then we hit the larger wetland lakes in the area, the domain of the boring ducks, geese and gulls. My girlfriend wanted to see some lapwings and well, since we were there anyway I thought I should see if I could find something interesting. Now, there are hundreds, probably thousands of birds on these lakes and when you looked through my binoculars I was completely astonished. I could see them all so well and while I new there were different species of ducks and geese here, I just didn't expect it to be this cool. Perhaps I saw only 3 species of duck I recognized and some geese, but if I would have looked longer and brought one of my bird books with me (which I forgot) this would have been awesome. And yes, we saw several lapwings and probably a greenshank. I saw a few great crested crebes, but I knew there are others there too for example the black-necked grebe, which is a spectacul bird. Yesterday we went back to take a hike there and that was even more fun. My girlfriend brought her camera with zoomlens and shot some really cool pics. It was just awesome and the way you engage with your environment is just something else. Even when your binoculars just rest on your chest you are so much more aware of your surroundings. I can totally recommend this:)
    -Did another pubquiz with friends on saturday and once again that was really cool.
    -Yesterday it was Kingsday and while it wasn't really celebrated this year because of COVID-19, we had ordered tompouces (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tompouce) and that's always a treat:)
     
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  5. Eternity

    Eternity Patience

    This seems popular. Unfortunately, I lack the patience to sit still for more than two minutes, so bird watching has never been a thing for me. I need to move almost constantly, which means that pretty much all I do is hiking. I've said this in my journal but I really need to work on my ability to relax. That way I can stop and be at one with nature, taking in all the sights, smells and sounds. I'm planning to clear a glade in the forested part of my backyard where I can hopefully find some peace.
     
  6. Living

    Living Well-Known Member

    First and foremost: I'm not going to say you should try birding. We all have our likes and dislikes and me liking something doesn't mean you will:)

    However (yes, there is always the 'however'), what I'm doing is not so different from what you describe. Yes, there are these that will bring their camouflaged bird tents and sit there for hours. I doubt I will like that too. What I do is I go on a hike and just look around. When I see or hear something interesting I raise my binoculars and be awed. Sure, sometimes I stand at the same spot for a couple of minutes, but that's because there is something out there that is really fascinating. Like two days ago when I went to the wetlands again I saw a spoonbill roaming around the water looking for food. That was something I had never seen before so watching that for a while was only natural. Or when I saw a couple of bluethroats, a bird I have wanted to see for years and there they were just meters away from me. It actually turned out they were pretty common in the area so I saw a couple more afterwards:) And while doing so you learn about that little black dot on a reet stem that you wouldn't give any second thought before, but that you know understand is a bird, probably a reet bunting or maybe even a bluethroat or a goldfinch.

    I have been pretty hesitant with birding for a long while because I thought it wouldn't be the thing for me. Getting up at 5 to sit for hours at the edge of a forest is perhaps not really my cup of tea. Then again, if I would try it, I might actually enjoy it. I also thought that since I don't really have any birding buddies it was hard to get into. Plus I was actually kind of scared of actual bird watchers, because I felt like wearing binoculars would mean people would expect me to be like them and know the stuff they know. But what I do now is not all about spotting birds, it's about engaging with nature in a deeper way. It's about having fun and being awed by all these awesome things nature has to offer. And even to a total noob like me, nature has to offer a whole lot:) Like I said, I'm not going to say you should try birding, but if you want to 'stop and be one with nature' I do believe a pair of binoculars might actually help. Not only do you see things you wouldn't see otherwise, I my experience you also pay a whole lot more attention to your surroundings. And I think that's where being one with nature starts.

    And awesome idea about the glade. I totally envy you for having a backyard like that:) I can really see that attributing to your life.

    Reason why I am doing this:
    -Because I prefer to feel good. Doing this does not guarantee to feel good all the time, but it definitly increases my chances:)

    Three good things:
    -Like I've mentioned above: a spoonbill, several bluethroats, a cuckoo (heard them occasionally, but I had never seen one before) and wheatears.
    -I always have breakfast with either rolled oats or steel cut oats and some fruits. I prefer steel cut oats, because of the rich flavour. Anyway, since I have a bit more time now, I thought about trying some good overnight recipes. Since we had some carrots in the fridge I made overnight carrot cake oats with grated carrots, ginger, raisins, cinnamon and nutmeg. That was really really good. Healthy and just so full of flavour. It was even a lot more sweet than I had expected. Tonight I'm going to prepare overnight apple pie oats with grated apple, raisins and cinnamon:)
    -I fixed my girlfriends phone. She wants to use it as long as possible, but sometimes it does get stuck. I saved it last time and it lasted for more than 3 extra months. Let's see how long it will last this time:)
     
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  7. Eternity

    Eternity Patience

    That I could do, I've actually been interested in a pair of good quality binoculars since I moved here. Last year I saw a large bird that I would have liked to inspect more closely. One of my many project ideas include building birdhouses, and among them for owls. Since you shouldn't disturb the birds, and especially owls, it would be nice to view from a distance. Sadly I got too many things I'd like to buy right now, so the binoculars have to wait.

    This actually seems like something I could enjoy; there's something about dawn and dusk that is special to me. But I'd much rather be on the move, even camp outside. There's this 280 km long trail that runs through the "wilderness" not far from where I live. I'd really enjoy spending a week or two on it, but I need to get some equipment first. If the weather is fair, it's possible to travel light. I think a week away from civilization and the online world would be very cleansing.

    Thanks, it's really something I should think of more highly. It's a lot of work, but a privilege to have. If I wanted to, there's room enough to keep chickens or a few sheep. Having some kind of grazing animals would help with the restoration of the fields, but it's a big step...
     
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  8. Living

    Living Well-Known Member

    Lol I get that. Binoculars are worth it though:) The 280 km trail sounds awesome! You are from Sweden, right? A lot of awesome wilderness there. My parents have been hiking there a few times and it all sounded really cool. It's very high on my list to visit. It's actually a place I wouldn't mind living.

    My neighbour has chickens too and she has a 90 square meter garden in the middle of the city, so you should be okay:) Perhaps you could consider cows instead sheep, they could have a positive effect on the forest part of your garden too. This month I read a book called Wilding by Isabelle Tree. Not sure if you ever heard of Knepp Castle, but it's this pretty big estate in the UK where they went from cultivated land to wilderness. It's an awesome project and the book is very interesting. It also talks about how different animals affect their environment. Not that you should rewild your garden, but it might be an interesting read if you want to have some animals. So how big is your garden anyway?

    Reason why I am doing this:
    Because it makes my life so much better in so many ways:)

    Three good things:
    -My own garden is not very big (90 square meters), but I wanted a small pond to increase the wildlife. Ah, I wanted lots of plants ofcourse and vegetables and so on and so on. Plus, my girlfriend wants things too:) Anyway, first I started with a mini pond that was maybe 40 cm wide, but I decided last year that I really really needed a bigger one. Now I have a 80 cm wide pond that is a bit deeper too. Last year I already saw an increase in wildlife in the pont and this year that increased with all kinds of waterinsects and snails. This morning I gave it a look and saw an alpine newt. I have seen those before in the garden (even one in the small pond), but it's still pretty damn awesome:)
    -Did a pubquiz again with some of my friends. We actually made it to the top 250. That might not sound that impressive, but with almost 2000 teams competing I think that's pretty decent.
    -I really enjoy spending less time on my phone and not having that constant feeling that I should check for messages or emails. It does give a whole lot of rest. I think I will see the true benefits in the long run, but this far I already see a difference.
     
  9. Eternity

    Eternity Patience

    I am, yeah. If you want to experience Swedish wilderness you should hurry; the forests are rapidly disappearing and I fear that none will be left in a not too far future. Hopefully we will get more protected areas before it's too late.

    There is actually a cow field next to my land, an idea could be to ask the farmers to expand it to include what I got. That sounds like an interesting book, and a topic I'm interested in. I do wish man would live more in harmony with nature, and not try to control it so strictly. The total area that came with the house is about 7300 square meters, so it's huge. Most of it is either woods or (overgrown) fields, though.

    This is a very good thing to do for biodiversity. Everything benefits from it. I've heard it's a lot of work to maintain, but it's definitely something I've considered. That's the only thing I miss about this place, no water. At my parents' house where I grew up there are large ponds with fish and water birds, and brooks. There used to be thousands of tiny frogs in spring but I sadly think they've declined.
     
  10. Living

    Living Well-Known Member

    Lol, I'm from the Netherlands, so anything that is not cultivated is a win:)

    I definitly think we could live a whole lot more in harmony with nature, but things are stirring and Knepp isn't the only place where something like this has happened. Although it's going slow, people are starting to see how important nature is. For example if you look at how many popular books are written about nature these days and how allotments have become a thing for modern young people you definitly do see things changing. It would be nice if things wents a bit quicker, but perhaps that's just not how these things work.

    Your garden is huge indeed. I'm even more envious now:) I can imagine that can be overwhelming too though. But there are lots of things you can do with it. What do you want to do with it?

    Yeah, water brings so much life to a place. I don't know if it takes a whole lot of work to maintain. My parents in law have a bigger pond (but not really big) and they do have to get out the leaves and things like that. But then again, their pond is quite unnatural. I think that if you create a pond with a healthy ecosystem in mind it will mean less work. But I'm no expert:)

    Reason why I am doing this:
    Because I feel better when I put time and energy in things I actually value.

    Three good things:
    -Went for another walk in the wetlands this morning. It's just a really nice place to be:)
    -The alpine newt was still in the pond this morning. Really happy about that! It would be nice to have a couple of newts in my garden that will hunt down slugs:)
    -Despite the restlessness I feel quite good about how things are going. Had an awesome weekend with my girlfriend!
     
  11. Eternity

    Eternity Patience

    Yeah, it's hard to change the older generations. But I think that everything helps; one can't do all, but many can. The more, the better. Sadly the people in power don't believe in nature.

    I have this idea that is perhaps a bit out there, but as a fan of Tolkien's world I want to make the garden inspired by it. It wouldn't happen overnight, but be a lifetime project.

    Me neither, but I always thought that it's necessary to clean it if there's no running water. It just clogs up if not. But I really have no idea!
     
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  12. Living

    Living Well-Known Member

    The thing is the people in power can't really go against the public. At least that is my take on things. We still do live in a democracy and when 90% of the people aren't willing to pay a fair price for an honest product the government can do very little about that. They could do things, but when elections come they will be kicked out because they do things the majority doesn't like. Even when you look at big companies that obviously go against nature: in the end they can do these things because we want it. We want food at such a low price that it's actually lower than the cost, we want palm oil for which large areas of rainforest are destroyed. Most people want a better environment, but it should not be at their expense. They don't realize that our current economy is pretty damn fucked up and will remain fucked up unless they are willing to change. However, you do see changes. Last year I had a talk with my parents about cutting out meat every now and then. When we had they talk they were like: "Yes, we understand that you do that, but we have been raised on meat and we are too old to change our ways." I was a bit dissappointed with them actually, but I left it at that. But a couple of months ago I was talking with them and they were saying they have started eating vegetarian regularly. So even the old and stubborn can change:)

    That sounds awesome! I guess it would be more like the Shire or the elven strongholds than Mordor:)

    Lol neither have I, but I do think that a lot of artificial ponds will clog up more rapidly because a lack of balance. If you have a more natural pond with a balanced ecosystem I think the muck on the bottom will decay a lot faster. I'm not going to say it means no maintance, but if you don't have enough life in your pond to eat away the leaves and such it will only build up and up.

    Reason why I am doing this:
    -Because deep down it's the only thing that makes sense.

    Three good things:
    -I made snickerdoodles last evening:) Since I kinda like my cookies a bit soft I really love these. Just have to make sure I won't go through the batch too fast:)
    -My girlfriend finished the conclusion of her thesis this morning, so we went out for a hotdog (or more like pylsur/pølse) and some fries. That was pretty good:)
    -The newt is still hanging in there:)
     
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  13. Eternity

    Eternity Patience

    In Sweden, one of the worst enemies of the woods is the state owned Sveaskog. Where they have been, there's only wasteland. And this is where my tax money is going? I'm totally against it but nothing I say or do matters; no matter how I vote, the woods are doomed. I get that the forest is one of our greatest exports, but that doesn't justify wasteland strategy. Google kalhygge and you'll know what I mean. I'm sorry if I get carried away, but this is really a topic that I'm passionate about. I hope for actual democracy, but it's yet to happen for nature. At least youth today is very aware, and I hope the old fossils that resist can be overthrown.

    That's the idea, the open parts will be green, rustic and cozy like the Shire, and the wooded parts will be elvish with many paths and lights. I even got an old cellar that I want to turn into a hobbit hole - all I need really is a round door.

    Definitely. There's a waterhole in the woods behind, and whether or not it's natural it gets zero maintenance. I haven't examined it closely yet, but talking about this makes me want to. It may be a spring, but I'm not sure.

    It seems to like it if it's still there, hopefully it stays longer.
     
  14. Great to see another dutchy doing his very best beating this. I can totally relate with people not being intelligent about the ‘intelligent lockdown’. Not much to do about it though, other than set a good example.

    You have a very large topic and I haven’t gotten around to reading it all yet. Will start followin you though.

    Have a good night and a great day tomorow!
     
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  15. Living

    Living Well-Known Member

    The reducting of my phone use is going well, but also shows where the problems are. That can be frustrating, but it also gives opportunities to learn:) Under normal circumstances I can easily limit my phone use to 10 unlocks per day. And even then most of them aren't really necessary. I think it would be a good idea to limit reading and sending emails once or twice a day and leave my inbox alone for the rest of the time. What I find problematic is when I do need to know something. For example when I'm not sure if I need to work at a certain project the next day. Not knowing that is something that is not uncommon in my job, but it always makes me kind of restless. Often I call first and send an email later if I didn't get a response. But because I need to inform my own superiors too and such I tend to look a lot more at my phone in these occurances. I'm starting to learn a different way of looking at that. First of all, looking at my phone is not going to make people respond quicker. It's much more efficient and less stressful if I send the email and give the recipient a couple of hours to respond. Second and perhaps more important: it's not my problem. Oh yes, it feels like my problem and I'm quite responsible when it comes to things like that, but if I do my best to get an answer and the other person takes more time to respond than would be ideal, that's not really my fault. And if because of that I can't inform my superiors straight away, that's not my problem. It's good to be responsible, but I should become a bit more aware of what things really fall under my responsibilities. Anyway, that's something I want to work on. I do enjoy spending less time on my phone and it does make me feel better in general, so it's all well worth it:)

    @Eternity: I know where you coming from and I totally understand. My point was not that the people in power are not at fault, my point was that without the help of the general public they have less options. Look at our food production for example. The prices we are paying for things like milk and meat are plain ridiculous, even more so if you look at how much they cost in terms of health, biological impact and soil exhaustion. Most farmers would hardly be making a living without subsidies. And because 'we' don't want to pay a fair price for these things (or ignore that the price is not fair) it's pretty hard for a government to do something about it. A government can make people more aware, but if you would raise the prices to a fair price you know you will be overthrown and your changes will be undone rather quickly. I value democracy a whole lot, but in these dynamic times where we can't even keep up with our own development a democracy that changes every 4 years is just not a very efficient system.
    I don't know about Kalhygge, and there are probably some rich people becoming even more rich because of that, but I still think that to change things like that you do need the general public. You need society to accept that we way we live now is something we simply can't keep up. And that you can't have the cake and eat it either, so that if we want to change the world in a positive way that comes at a cost. And I don't even think that would necessarily mean that the way we live has to become worse (I can see a lot of advantages myself), but it does have to become fundamentally different. And while I see slow changes around me, people are still reluctant to make big steps even now that the very ground they stand on is crumbling. To me that seems like a bigger problem than the people in power. And it's perfectly fine with me if you see things in another way, but this is my point of view. And that's something I'm rather passionate about too:)

    @BoughtWithBlood: Thanx! There are actually quite a few of the more active members in 30-39's and the dinosaur sections that are from the Netherlands:)

    Reason why I am doing this:
    -The world is way to beautiful and interesting to waste my time on porn:)

    Three good things:
    -The sessile oak behind my garden has suddenly become bright green. It's a rather depressing tree in early spring, because when the rest of the world is coming to live the tree keeps holding his brown leaves, but after a week of rain and then some sun the tree has gotten this really vivid colour.
    -A nuthatch has started visiting our garden again. They are one of favorite garden birds. The way they hammer on the peanuts in the garden makes them look like tiny woodpeckers. Last year he sometimes brought a friend with him, so I'm rooting for that now too.
    -Tonight we are going to make (and eat) moussaka: nom nom nom:)
     
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  16. Living

    Living Well-Known Member

    He's actually still there:) I'm really happy with that!
     
  17. Great to see you’ve come to realise that you’re not responsible for everything! That should help you with letting go. I bet not checking your phone so often helps with easing your mind.
     
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  18. Eternity

    Eternity Patience

    Totally, as long as we keep consuming cheap stuff nothing is going to change. I get that many have trouble getting by, but I think organic and near produced food is growing in popularity. It's only, for everyone who discovers this, five more are born. Industrialized farming is the only way unless, like you say, everything changes fundamentally. I wish there was more support and encouragement to those who'd like to take up organic farming. It's definitely something I've considered, and if if was less of a gamble I would hesitate a little less.

    We can only hope that Greta will convince her generation, and that that generation in turn convinces their elders.
     
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  19. Gil79

    Gil79 Seize the day

    Life starts at 40, you'll see ;)
     
  20. Living

    Living Well-Known Member

    Just a few more months:) Just curious though, do you actually get to pick what kind of dinosaur you become at your fortiest birthday or is it more like a random process?
     

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