Don't Count Days, Just Stay Off Porn & Masturbation

Discussion in 'Ages 40+' started by 40New30, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. JohnQ

    JohnQ Active Member



    40,
    I have been following your advice since this exchange between us from last November with great results (more on that below) but I want to follow up with you regarding your recommendation to take 5 HTP, tyrosine, and cysteine. I was wondering what dosage of each you were taking and how long you stayed on those supplements? I haven’t been able to find any references with dosage recommendation. Also have you looked into Dr. Bredesen’s protocol?

    Last November I got a physical and had elevated liver enzymes and decided I needed to do something about it. Your reply made me look into diet, gut health, inflammation, metabolic health, etc. The research told me that all those things are tied together. Mid December I started a keto diet (<40g of carbs/day) and switched healthy fats (no omega-6’s) and to organic foods and grass feed beef, butter an cheese. The results have been amazing. I lost 30lbs, am down to my high school weight and have put on muscle. I went through the candida die off thing and my gut heath has dramatically improved and my inflammation is gone. I had no idea how bad off I was with those things. I’m sleeping better and I didn’t get my typical sinus infections this past winter or allergies in the spring. Not having the constant ups and downs associated with eating carbs is great and the diet is very satisfying so there is very little hunger and my body knows when to stop eating. Being fat adapted and running on ketones is great. Not only getting rid of the foods that caused poor gut biome has helped but having elevated levels of beta hydroxybutyrate serves as an anti-inflammatory. My liver enzymes returned to normal, my blood pressure has lowered and my lipids are amazing (my triglycerides dropped and my HDL went up). I feel really healthy and am in good spirits. My concentration has improved and I don’t get brain fade anymore in the afternoon.

    I was hopeing this approach would help with my reboot and I think it did but I still spend a lot of time in flatline. Maybe a few times week I do feel some little libido and that’s up from a few times a month but it is very fragile and will quickly disappear. When I do feel something it is actually a surprise. My sensitivity comes and goes so I’m not there yet with that. That said I want to try some of the brain supplements.

    Thanks so much for all your help!
     
  2. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    That's awesome! Treating systemic inflammation and rebuilding the gut are vital to recovery from addiction.
    For me, it has been probably the most important step.

    But, I still have a ways to go after months and months of trial and error.

    I have been at this for a long time; but, I still have Candida overgrowth and liver flukes that I see in my stool maybe once or twice a week. Yep. It's a long process, now, mind you that I amnot spending thousands of doctors -- I'm self treating. This is probably a longer route, but it also saves thousands in testing/doctors. Each man has to make their own call in that regard.

    To be honest, I went away from relying on amino acids to boost neurotransmitters, though it does work. I don't really recommend that route at this point.

    Now, I'm much more aware of continuing to rebuild the gut (it can take several years after serious gluten/dairy issues), making sure I am getting rid of Candida/parasites, and addressing nutrient deficiencies (my zinc is through the floor, vitamin D too).

    If we all do that, and it takes a while, then there is no real reason to take these individual amino acids to boost serotonin and dopamine because our body produces them on it's own.

    If you have brain fog, I highly recommend trying Rhodiola 2 - 3 times a day. Catuaba is a mild dopamine enhancer that works too. All the adaptogens in high doses will bring the body/brain into balance.

    My health changed radically when I started looking into methylation issues, low thyroid, and of course their relationship with a messed up gut biome. I recommend GAPs style diet, probiotics, getting your genetics looked at, as well as looking into pyroluria.

    My overall health problems is one of the things that drove my addiction deeper oblivion, I feel like they worked hand in hand. I would not be surprised if this was also the case with many here as well.

    Does this help at all?
     
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  3. Freedom from Servitude

    Freedom from Servitude Active Member

    Candida sounds like a horrible condition to have, but its symptoms overlap with countless other conditions. How do you know that you have it? How does your stool look? That's not me doubting that you have it, I'm just curious.
     
  4. Boxer17

    Boxer17 Active Member

    I agree. I read that up to 60% of one's immune system and inflammatory response is linked to the gut
     
  5. JohnQ

    JohnQ Active Member

    40,

    I agree 100% about the health problems causing deeper addiction. Thank you for the help. I can’t tell you how much better I feel after following your advice. I have been self treating too. To be honest I’m kind of enjoying the research and been calling it my experiment of n=1. In July I talked to GP about this and he had no interest. I gave him a couple peer review papers as I was leaving. I think we are 10 years away from this being adopted my the GP medical community. The functional medics people are ahead of them. I have already added vitamin D and zinc and am trying to get more sun. I have been looking into what tests I should get. I will also look into Rhodiola and Catuaba. I have already added vitamin D and zinc and am trying to get more sun.

    I’m doing the keto diet so it seems to fall into a GAP style diet. There are many versions of low carb diets. I’m not eating any grains and for the most part the only carbs I’m eating are cruciferous vegetables. I also read “Healthy Gut Healthy You” and made some additional diet adjustments. Probiotics were part of that. I did find some medical papers that point out that running on ketones and actually help your neurons. Basically insulin resistance and inflammation can starve your brain/neurons of nutrition if you are running on a carbohydrate metabolism. Yet even if you are insulin resistant your brain can operate on ketones. In fact there is strong evidence to say that ketones are the preferred fuel of the brain. Ketognic diets have been used to treat epilepsy and now are now being used to treat Alzheimer’s so I agree with what you are saying. Now if I could only get my libido back and pecker to work more reliably. upload_2018-8-9_22-10-55.png :(

    Freedom,

    A lot of the time I noticed mucus in my stool. Like you said symptoms overlap with countless other conditions and that’s because they are all related. For me it was a bunch of symptoms that I was having that started me researching what the root cause could be. Ten years ago I got thyroid nodules which is likely an autoimmune disorder. Four years ago I started feeling more fatigued and wasn’t sleeping well. I just thought it was working too many hours and job related stress. The year before last I had a gout attack and my blood results showed a high uric acid level. Then, last fall after a routine physical I found I had elevated liver enzymes and was diagnosed with nonalcoholic fatty liver disease. During all this my weight and blood pressure were slowly creeping up and my blood lip profile was slowly getting worse. No matter how hard I trained or how hard I tried to diet I couldn’t loose weight. For the most part all of those symptoms are related to metabolic syndrome. It didn’t make sense to me because I always eat well (Standard American Diet, high carb, low fat), exercised, stayed away from sugar and only drank a couple of drinks a week.

    I wondered if leaky gut caused by an inflamed endothelial lining of the intestines could cause that problem and I did find several references on that. I started to look into causes of leaky gut and I found several references that pointed to poor gut biome (candida/bad bacteria) caused by a high carb diet. The carb cause overgrowth of candida and bad bacteria. What 40 told me made me dig deeper. All the carbs also elevate your blood sugar and your body produces insulin to deal with the sugar. Because of all the insulin your cells become more insulin resistant. The insulin resistance causes your body to go into a positive feedback mode and keeps having to produce more and more insulin to try to get all the sugar out of your blood system. What happens is you can’t burn any of the stored fat and the weight just keeps going up.

    The elevated sugar levels and insulin cause inflammation in the various endothelial linings in your body. In your intestines it causes gut leakage which poisons your blood and leads to possible autoimmune disorders. The inflamed endothelial linings in your blood vessel cause high blood pressure and in your heart it allows LDL to pass through and build plaque. Diabetes and metabolic syndrome are at an epidemic proportions.

    I went on a ketogenic diet mid December (30g carbs, 125g protein and balance of calories from fat). My weight dropped rapidly and my lipids and blood pressure improved and my liver enzymes and uric acid levels are now normal. My training buddies say I now look like Tom Dumoulin on the bike. The inflammation is gone and even after hard training rides I don’t have any inflammation. Also I feel much more alert now that I’m running on ketones.

    Basically, the human metabolism is not meant to run on sugar/carbs. We are not ruments like cows and we don’t have a cecum of any real size like a gorilla. Thus the gut problems. Evolution made us into persistent hunters and we only ate fruits and vegetables when we had to and when they were in season. Ever wonder why there is no fruit or vegetables painted on prehistoric cave walls? ;)

    Go to YouTube the Low Carb Down Under channel. Look for Drs Phinney, Volek and Noakes.
     
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  6. Saville

    Saville Well-Known Member

    Enjoying the discussion about diet and so on. I definitely need to jump on the bandwagon. I'm fond of my gut, I've spent a lot of time building upon it and keeping it the beautiful, round, voluminous shape it is. However, seems like the science is stacked against my preferred physique, and I need to turn into a skinny bitch, or at least a less phat one. FML! :(
     
  7. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member

    What the he'll is FML! YOU guys speaking martian ?
     
  8. JohnQ

    JohnQ Active Member

    F*** my life ;)
     
  9. Freedom from Servitude

    Freedom from Servitude Active Member


    Thanks for sharing, John. I am from a slightly different background from where you were. I am of average weight and eat a generally balanced diet. I am on a gluten free diet and I restrict dairy to a minimum. I have had most of the blood tests available in the UK, and nothing unusual has come up. Because of persistent anxiety and depression, I have done a fair bit of research on diet. I am sceptical when one camp of a particular lifestyle claims a monopoly of truth over the other. It seems that the evidence overall doesn't support a consensus on what the best diet is. Countries like Italy and Japan that have highly carb based diets also have among the best statistics for health. This challenges the narrative that the Paleo proponents make.

    I have heard of stories of people who try the palo diet and have found that it doesn't suit them. Vegetarians and Vegans have made similar claims that their diets are best and natural for the human body. I think that ultimately, we have all got to find a diet that is right for us. I am glad that you feel that you have found one that is right for you. As a general rule of thumb, I don't think that that people can do much wrong if they follow balance and moderation in all things. The problem we have in the west is our portion sizes and over consumption of processed foods. Out of curiosity, how many calories a day are getting from your diet?
     
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  10. Boxer17

    Boxer17 Active Member

    I have enjoyed this discussion as well From what I have read overly processed food has become a health curse to our western civilization. And studies show as other cultures adopt some of our eating ways similar health ailments are cropping up overseas
     
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  11. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    In my experience very low carb diets slow the thyroid, shoot for 80 to 120 grams a day. Paleo-ish is definitely working for me, I found bad reactions to corn, wheat, soy, and dairy. Actually, I've lost another 10 pounds without trying. Crazy. I've been eating this way for a little over a year. Getting off dairy was huge. I already knew grain carbs where hurting me (wheat, corn). Rice, interestingly enough, is fine for me.

    My gut biome issues will be different from others, but it definitely all started very early in my life (anti-biotic use), candida and food intolerances hit after major life stress (age 18 or so).

    Seems to take a long time to heal, especially rebuilding good flora, but like staying off PMO, the rewards are great. Again, I have seen parasites and candida come out of my body when on special diets and cleanses; they are still coming out. Sad, but true. I know they effect my health and erections to this day.

    I may have to try pharmaceuticals to get rid of the flukes, but I'm not there yet. Whatever it takes to get and stay healthy!

    Sorry for late response, I've been tied up.

    P.S. Massive doses of arginine/citrulline helped immensely with my wood (10 to 20 grams). From what I have read having candida produces high amounts of ammonia in the body, and this impedes nitric oxide production big time. It takes bigger dosages and a few weeks to kick in, or at least it did for me. Others get by on much less, but they probably have a healthier digestive tract.
     
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  12. JohnQ

    JohnQ Active Member

    Freedom,
    I agree with what you are saying and I hope I didn’t sound preachy. Do your own research, look at the science and try some n=1 experiments on yourself.

    Right now I’m eating about 2,200 calories per day but that is a guess. I don’t have to count calories anymore. Believe it or not portion control is not required. I would not have thought that was possible. Basically I only manage the carbs and eat to satiety. The diet is very satisfying and I don’t find myself being hungry. There are some technical reasons for that.
     
  13. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    I plan on trying some liver flushes, I'll report back. Some people say it's for crackpots...deal me in. Haha.
     
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  14. Freedom from Servitude

    Freedom from Servitude Active Member

    No offence taken, John. I assume that you have been increasing your servings of meat to compensate for the lack of carbs you are getting? It intrigues me how followers of the Paleo diet can get the sufficient number of calories they need to function. Taking into account other sources of fat like nuts, advocados and olives, the amount of meat consumed must be substantial.
     
  15. JohnQ

    JohnQ Active Member

    I’m curious about that. Let me know how it goes.
     
  16. JohnQ

    JohnQ Active Member

    Freedom,
    I’m eating about 600 calories of protein which is about 125 grams of protein a day. So that is maybe 8 ozs of meat at dinner and then some cheese, yogurt or eggs at lunch. Previously I was eating a very low fat diet, lean beef, broiled chicken breast and very little butter. I hadn’t eaten bacon 20 years. Although it might seem odd at first eating this way becomes natural. It is easy to get enough fat. Fat has 9 calories per gram where as each gram of protein and carbs have 4 calories so it doesn’t take a lot of fat to get the calories you need. I select cuts of meat that have some fat. I also add some grass fed butter to my green vegetables and the cheese, whole fat Greek yogurt have some fat. You are right, avocados and olive oil are good sources of monounsaturated fats and are great with a salad. I avoid omega-6 sources found in vegetable oil and have a tablespoon of omega-3 fish oil each day and maybe a tablespoon coconut oil in my coffee in the morning.
     
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  17. Guy_Stewart

    Guy_Stewart Well-Known Member

    Hey, old friend! Just thought I'd stop by and let you know I'm thinking of you and also giving you a big "THANK YOU!" for your steadfast friendship here.
     
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  18. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    Hey Guy, thanks bud! Haven't been posting in a while, all is well. I will stop posting more again this week...
     
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  19. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    Guys, all is well.

    I've definitely fallen out of the habit of posting for a lot of different reasons; I'm still alive, still fighting and winning the battle against porn. Hope you're all doing the same! Planning on getting back into posting more, but, I do think it's been a definite positive for me to take a break for the forum.

    Not abandoning you all, just taking a breather...peace.
     
  20. Boxer17

    Boxer17 Active Member

    Good to hear!
     

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