Did anyone else get ED before high speed?

Discussion in 'Erectile Dysfunction / Delayed Ejaculation' started by NewLeaseOnLife, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. NewLeaseOnLife

    NewLeaseOnLife New Member

    Just curious, I'd like to find people who have succeeded with a similar profile to mine. I've had erectile trouble since I first tried to put it in someone, 30 years ago. Never with porn until the last few years, though.
  2. hogus

    hogus Active Member

    Are you SURE your ED is caused by porn? Sounds like it was something else, organic or psychogenic. There might still be an element of PIED.
  3. hollow

    hollow Lost & Found

    yeah .. maybe there is something physical (going to doctors for full organ & blood tests is suggested).. if it is fine .. then maybe it was performance anxiety (there is a need then to check with psychiatrist)

    keep fetching for the main reason .. its half road to healing
  4. NewLeaseOnLife

    NewLeaseOnLife New Member

    Not sure, that's why I'm looking for similar cases. However, ed was never a problem with porn until recently, only with partners and not always even then.
  5. Yes. I've experienced ED since I was 17. There seems to be a (hidden) group of guys in the age range 35+ who contracted chronic ED way before there was any Internet.

    First, like other guys have said- if you haven't been checked out by a urologist - do this to rule out any organic issues.

    The way I see it is that there are more ways than one that can lead to chronic ED.

    I believe that my own ED has its root causes in starting to masturbate at a very early age (about 9), excessive masturbation from then on through adolescence and into adulthood; intense, regular, excessive and pornlike fantasies and daydreaming (especially during adolescence), hooked on porn pre-Internet (magazines and the occasional vid) which fuelled the wrong/porn-like conceptions of sex and sexuality.

    The problem was further worsened by Internet porn, which consolidated my auto-sexuality and thus my copulatory ED. Like you I could get hard for porn/masturbation but not for sex with a girl. However, again like you, my erections even with porn deteriorated over time.

    For my part I think excessive/obsessive masturbation and intense sexual fantasies from an early age wired myself... to my self making me more susceptible to auto-sexual cues (such as my own hand and very set and particular fantasies) to get me aroused, instead of sexual cues from girls. There has also been a strong element of performance anxiety, but it's impossible for me to say which came first - PA or ED. In any case, they are linked and feed off each other.

    This forum is (obviously and naturally maybe) focussed on PIED. But I think some of us "older" guys contracted "MIED" (Masturbation Induced ED) in our formative years.

    I still believe rebooting and rewiring is beneficial to us. I know my erectile capability has improved , even if progress is very slow, incremental and non-linear.

    Would be good to see more " MIED"-guys come forth and talk about their issues. I believe we could all learn a lot about human sexuality and ED - what's detrimental and what's benificial.

    Gary Wilson and Marnia have done wonders with "discovering" PIED and telling men how to overcome it. But let's not stop there. Let's explore further to see if we can discover other causes of chronic ED which is not organic.
  6. NewLeaseOnLife

    NewLeaseOnLife New Member

    I've read your journal, 38. Your situation is the closest to mine that I've found. Thank you for documenting it. Our early days seem very similar.
  7. bigproblem

    bigproblem New Member

    im in the your group, Ill be 36 soon and I have had life long ED. My whole story is in one of the first few posts I ever made. I also started masturbating prone when i was about 13-14.
  8. hogus

    hogus Active Member

    Have you been checked by a urologist?
  9. richard29

    richard29 Member

    All the guys that got PIED or MIED before high-speed broadband, do / did you guys get hard to tubesite porn?
  10. See what I said in my post above:
  11. NewLeaseOnLife

    NewLeaseOnLife New Member

    Are you asking me? I have not. All my life I've had no trouble getting hard to soft porn (until recently when it started happening occasionally). I just had frequent trouble with actual flesh. Pretty sure I can rule out performance anxiety as the last 23 years have been with the same patient partner.

    Do you think getting checked would be useful?
  12. hogus

    hogus Active Member

    No probably not. Psychogenic ED is a very vague field compared to organic ED even if PIED didn't exist. Have you ever gone through the normal psychogenic ED checks - depression, stress etc? Or sat down with a counsellor or psychiatrist to see if they came up with anything?

    What 38 said he went through is also a possibility here.
  13. NewLeaseOnLife

    NewLeaseOnLife New Member

    I've had stress, I've had depression, I've been high, I've been low. This has gone on for 30 years through thick and thin. I was prepared to live the rest of my life this way. If high speed internet hadn't exposed this issue in so many people that would still be the plan. For the moment I'd like to see if abstinence will do for me what it has done for others. If it works, I suppose I'll be the case study for MIED.
  14. Dito.
  15. NewLeaseOnLife

    NewLeaseOnLife New Member

    This is useful: http://yourbrainonporn.com/what-if-i-use-porn-without-orgasm

    Gary describes this as a behavior related to internet porn, but I have done this for years with and without internet.
  16. ted93704

    ted93704 Keep Your Heads Up!

    I'm 34 and have ED..started masturbating by humping a pillow
  17. chad

    chad New Member

    I agree and I think I'm part of this group. I'm 43 and had PIED starting from my first sexual encounter @23. I think something that is underestimated is the impact of those VHS tapes form the eighties into the nineties. I'd been watching those since I was 17 or so and really picked it up around 19 or 20....

    IMO they were almost as bad as high speed internet access. I think the same could be said about those peep show booths that used to be all over Timesquare . Still I got to the point of having regular sex with my girl , meaning I could get an erection, but often times I was slow to cum and it never felt as good as porn. I guess I was organically rewiring and using less porn , but still didn't understand with conviction the relationship between porn and my issues. So I kept watching .

    Back in those days they would just chalk it up to physiological causes if you had a clean bill of health. I probably would have been cured decades ago if I had access to this site.

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