Could this be the answer to my problem?

Discussion in 'Ages 40+' started by ananoman, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    It was a weekend of sex with the wife. Did it Friday night and again Sunday morning with O's both time. On Sunday morning I really didn't want to O but it didn't work out that way. I'm paying for it now with tiredness.
    On a good note though last night I slept like a baby and clocked it 8 hours which never happens any more.
     
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  2. fcjl8

    fcjl8 The only path for me

    Hi ananoman, happy to read that you are building strong physical connections with your wife. That is very beneficial in fighting the old porn wiring.

    Stay well brother
     
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  3. Boxer17

    Boxer17 Active Member

    That is wonderful news
     
  4. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    Just wanted to check in. Doing pretty well although I'm not really staying in monk mode. In fact I'm being pretty lax with what I'm allowing myself to watch. Just no porn.

    Sleep has been up and down and I'm figuring out what I can and can't do. Coffee, even decaf is now off limits after 4 pm.

    Relations with the wife have been great. We had sex again this morning and I stopped before O. I really wanted to keep the interval at a week this time.
     
  5. Boxer17

    Boxer17 Active Member

    I hear you about the coffee in late afternoon and evening. I really have to watch my late day coffee o_O. Don't want to watch the ceiling half the night:).

    Great to hear relations with wife going well.
    Best regards Sir
     
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  6. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    I like coffee, especially since my wife bought a Nespresso. I figured that as long as it was decaf I'd be OK....but alas it is not to be. Oh well.
     
  7. fcjl8

    fcjl8 The only path for me

    Is decaf. not working? I just started having a bit of decaf coffee last week and was surprised by how good the full roast tasted and was really hoping... well... decaf is decaf.
     
  8. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    Checking back in with nothing new. I'm sleeping much better when I watch what I eat and drink and what time of the day I eat and drink it.

    Still saying away from P but have allowed Psubs to creep back in.
     
  9. Boxer17

    Boxer17 Active Member

    So glad to hear your sleeping better. I find I'm more willing to be a better man if I'm rested
    I know about the p subs. They are such sweet (poison) delicacies.
     
  10. fcjl8

    fcjl8 The only path for me

    Happy you are resting better ananoman... for me I have to totally avoid p-subs, absolutely all of my slips and full blown relapses have begun with p-subs.
     
  11. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    well, blew it. Being lax on Psubs has led me to a reset.
     
  12. Boxer17

    Boxer17 Active Member

    Hello sir. Only soldiers get knocked down. A little careless and a sniper nicked ya a good one. I've done it more times than I care to think about :confused:
    just have to keep quitting till we quit.

    We're with you my friend
     
  13. fcjl8

    fcjl8 The only path for me

    We have all been there friend. Praying that this goes no further.
     
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  14. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    thanks for the support guys. Looks like I can't ever let my guard down. Not even for a second. I am now going through the usual slight lethargy and not so great sleep. Only positive is my wife and I have been very amorous lately. 2 times in 2 days although I'm careful with the O's
     
  15. fcjl8

    fcjl8 The only path for me

    I also have to be careful with O's with my wife... they can create some fog and weird feelings for a few days. I remember on my last long period of freedom this eventually passed.

    Glad you regrouped brother.
     
  16. Boxer17

    Boxer17 Active Member

    Hello my friends
    I am not understanding references to feeling foggy or a little depressed after O even with a wife. Now, I have found myself in that state after a session of solo sex or times of ED while with my wife. That is a real bummer! But when I have had PIV O with my wife I have found myself energized and feeling very male.

    Am I thinking of something different than to what you are referring?

    Question asked with respectful curiosity
     
  17. fcjl8

    fcjl8 The only path for me

    Hi Boxer17... sorry don't want to take over anaoman's journal...

    I think for me right now... having used frequent PMO... for many many many decades my sensitivity to an O and the wonderfully massive release of dopamine and other neurochemicals can leave me fuzzy, foggy and off a bit for a few days. It has in the past also left me craving more, more and more. Of course these effects are mitigated when the O is the result of PIV intimacy. In truth only about 1/3 of my O's with my wife are the result of PIV... many are from oral... Having my neural pathways re-wire strictly to O's with her is my main objective. PIV O's have been truly amazing this year. Also, karezza type intimacy which has much physical bonding but stops short of O can be very beneficial. Just my take on things as they effect me. I am sure every guy and couple will experience different results.

    Hey anaoman, please forgive my intrusion... I would love to hear you out on this.
     
  18. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    Boxer, it has to do with our brains being wired to addictive behaviors.
    Once we get our sexuality under our control and we get it in the real world (only), and for a while, the effects will disappear.

    Neurons that fire together, wire together...so while in recovery a lot of us find that O's bring back withdrawal symptoms. It's quite common, nothing to worry about, but be very aware that it exists.
     
  19. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    Anano, P subs can be deadly, although I do think they are less dangerous than hardcore P...P subs are what got me last week. If we've "used" it for P, it's P to our brains, unfortunately.
     
  20. Boxer17

    Boxer17 Active Member

    Sorry about that ananoman.:rolleyes:
    Boxer
     
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