Considering an escort? Don't, here is why.

Discussion in 'Pornography Addiction' started by hope2overcome, May 21, 2015.

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  1. fathomer

    fathomer New Member

    @ h2o
    I can't believe you stopped so low to intentionally say I intentionally link to images! no intentions, in fact, i deleted them., sheesh you ignorant poster!
    LOL be a real man
    everything you say from this point on shows you are narrow minded and dont understand logic or intent.
    go to another forum you are hurting guys, not helping anyone
     
  2. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex

    @Fathomer, im glad you came to your senses and deleted those images. I don't like to lash out at anyone.

    I have been lurking around escort sites for so much time. Today, I noticed one walking down the street. And, man did she have assets I liked in her. I was seriously considering going for it. But, i couldn't surpass the fact that a women's body should not be for sale. Men who do stuff like that are confused immature men who want an easy way out.

    Thinking about this made me walk away after having followed her for a block. LOL
     
  3. fathomer

    fathomer New Member

    Yeah, get upset with me about posting some funny pics, and you go to escort sites.? LOL sounds like you get getting mad at the wrong person.
    women want to sell their body have all rights to sell it. it's their body, why not sell it?
    no one if forcing them to sell it

    you really need to think about other people and stop being so selfish as you apparently think the world is all about you and your narrow view of the world..I deleted those pics because coming here should not possibly affect other guys, so I didnt consider that, but when I realized, I deleted them.
    people should be allowed to do whatever they want to do, as long as they don't affect someone else and being in charge of their own body. the only thing you really own.
     
  4. Imfree

    Imfree Active Member

    I always thought that the point of sex was the feeling of being chosen by the woman and that the sensory gratification was just a bonus.

    Buying a prostitute would make me feel undesirable and really bad about myself. I had deluded myself into thinking that porn was somehow different, but it is not. At least with a prostitute you accomplished something before (coming up with the money to pay for the sex). I would actually feel a lot better about visiting a prostitute now than when I was PMOing, but I still don't think I could do it.

    Now that I have had sex with more women I have become somewhat disillusioned with the idea that sex is about the woman accepting you and thinking you're special. This is true to a certain extent, but when they start trying to change me I feel like less of a person and more like they just see me as a blank canvas to project their fantasies on. Being complimented on my body can be nice, but when they criticize me saying that I don't possess the traits which I value most I can feel worse than when I started.
     
  5. fathomer

    fathomer New Member

    don't confuse Women try to "change" you with women trying to help you be better
    if you were a smoker and your woman offered to buy you what you needed to quit, if you want to...is she trying to change you? or give you options?
    I agree about the illusion with sex as being someone "accepting you"
    sometimes men or women just want to get off. and I've been "taken" by my exgf and as a guy who just found the "right" woman
    when you are hungry, you dont much care where the food came from, you just want food!
     
  6. rebooting

    rebooting Member

    It's her body and if she wants to sell it to another guy, it's a deal between two consenting adults. You obviously want to do it, but you're making excuses to yourself to not do it. Just go for it. If it was a disappointing experience, at least you tried it once in your life. Some guys feel undesired after visiting a prostitute while others enjoy it. There's nothing morally wrong with prostitution. It's a guy's ego that tells him he should have sex for free to prove himself to be worthy of sex. Let's be real, not all men are studs. You can let your ego block you or...get it over with and go to that girl you saw and have sex with her. Your choice.

    But it's best to improve social skills and get a girl. Prostitution can be harmful when it becomes an addiction. It can lead to a more serious Coolidge Effect than porn because it's real.
     
  7. LittleRocket

    LittleRocket Member

    I recently visited a Brothel around two weeks ago. The escort I met was a Asian girl from China. She was very nice and she was humble. I could see into her eyes that she was very empty, lonely, shy and has no hope for the future but selling her body for sex like she has no way out but is so dependant on the money. I could tell that she is only working to support her family living in China especially her 7 year old son. I had sex with her but I could tap into her emotions and feel what she was feeling. She was telling me that I should find a girl friend, which hit me hard knowing that I'm so damn lonely and just need compassion at times. Visiting escorts has actually gave me life experiences and opening my view on sex and life. Some girls are just so innocent but yet they fall under this trade and some girls are just total bitches.

    When us guys don't receive any sex what is the next best option ? You know it, it's Porn.

    Us guys are fuelled by Sex, > Testosterone, it's what's make us men.

    We all need loving <3.

    I'm just fucking lonely and I have no friends.
     
  8. fathomer

    fathomer New Member

    how was the sex?
    did you have ED any issues?

    yeah, hookers have issues, seems everyone has issues though,
    you can't solve everyone elses problems, only yours and that's slim at best
     
  9. LittleRocket

    LittleRocket Member

    I don't have any ED issues. I cummed in like less than 1 minute. It's not all about the sex, it's about the companionship which makes the experience better. I just crave having a girl touching me around my body and talking to me just takes my mind to another planet, it just makes me feel human knowing that theres some one out there for me, even tho it's fake companionship, it's the closest thing I can get right now.

    I remember when I was at college last year, I met this girl I had this massive crush on her, for some reason every time I see her my heart just raced so fast and I started blushing so much, every time I got to talk to her I was so happy and my heart was also beating fast, I asked her out for a study season one time we talked and chilled it felt like I was living the dream, it got dark and she actually waited for me to go to my last class at 5pm even tho she was meant to left 1 hour before hand, we hugged each other, that hug sent me dopamine's so high that it was the most powerful hug ever. I fucked up by pushing things to hard with the girl instead of taking this slowly.

    This girl still pops up in my dream every now and then and it just makes me crave human touch even more.

    ** Us guys tend to fall in love faster than girls. We do stupid shit when it comes to "Love" and "Loneliness", note that I quoted both of those words.
    ** I have been a loner all my life, life with out "Love" or "Happiness" is nothing, everyday it feels like I'm rotting into my own "Loneliness". When you have experienced Loneliness it will open your vision of life.

    *** Here I am masturbating to porn and listening to my many love songs such as Mariah Carey & Luther Vandross - Endless Love crying my eyes out. I'm a emotional wreck.
     
  10. fathomer

    fathomer New Member

    so why are you on this board?
     
  11. LittleRocket

    LittleRocket Member

    Because it's related to hookers.
     
  12. Newnes

    Newnes Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Do you think only people with ED should be on this forum?

    Find yourself some Metta / Lovingkindness guided meditation on Youtube. Just 10-15mn a day could do wonders for you. When you practice it at first you don't really feel like anything is happening, but it actually activates the same neural pathways as when you're socialising with people you like.

    When you do it's like being with nice friends, offering them your own kindness, but you're still wherever you want. I use it because it makes me feel more connected to people, more compassionate to myself, and when I do see some friends I'm more empathetic. Just give it a fair shot of, say, one month? ;)
     
  13. LittleRocket

    LittleRocket Member

    Thank's I will give it a try.
     
  14. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex


    It has to be morally wrong it must or else we will all be consumed by the coolidge effect. I don't have a shortage of money, if I do it once. I know I will do it all the time even when I have a gf. I have to end it here or else it will go down a very bad rabbit hole to further problems. The majority do not like the fact that they have to see escorts who are using you for money. Escorts don't like the fact that this is where their life took them. What if your daughter decided to be an escort? you would be a failure of a father if that happened yet you justify consent being the ultimate factor. How does it feel to be the desperate customer of desperate women selling their bodies as a last resort? If you partook in escort services end it now. We as rebooters must convey the message that porn is fictitious, not beneficial and a woman's body SHOULD not be for sale.
     
  15. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex

    so why are you on this board?
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    Do you think only people with ED should be on this forum?

     
  16. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex

    US Guys are not fully fueled by sex. We believed this to be true because we followed the same narrative that our society told us. And, that is exactly the reason why we are in this mess. They put the wool over our eyes in plain sight and now we, after having suffered the brunt of sex addiction, have to remove the wool from our eyes. We are sex addicts that is why all we think about is sex, it's what was taught to us. Do not accept this as the norm because it will put us down just like it already has.

    I truly believe if we stop thinking about sex as just an activity and see it as an output to express connection and intimacy than we would be wiring correctly. Because, we in this fucked up sex crazed society have been taught we are sex fiends we as men just think sex is just an activity with no stigma. And that is why you joined that brothel and that is also why you weren't smart enough to take things slowly with your crush. I don't blame you you did exactly as society expected you to do. To prove my point, women argue they have to carry the babies therefore, they are more concerned about sex etc. The truth is honest men are concerned with a lot more than the baby. It is the man's responsibility to look after the family which the girl doesn't think of. So, this goes to show we aren't sex animals, we are humans furthering the reach of our existence by creating a family not indiscriminately having sex with any girl that breathes.

    This is all the more reason we as rebooters should convey the message(through our actions) we will not dance to the tune of this sex crazed society. We are people who are trying to get in touch with their nature not a perverted version perpetrated by the vices of society.

    And, Waywasa you gotta start approaching girls. After yesterdays relapse i realized this is something I will have to start immediately. I hate to think of porn or escorts. I want to start progressing my life. Join me in this.
     
  17. fathomer

    fathomer New Member

    Do you think only people with ED should be on this forum?

    LALALAA dude? or are you female?
    you change a guys response to include a passive/agressive comment toward me?
    seriously you need to change your ways,
    no one is wasting time on you
     
  18. himmelstoss

    himmelstoss Member

    Well if you don't make much money, saving up for an escort is actually more work that pick up.
     
  19. rebooting

    rebooting Member

    It's not up to you to decide what's morally right or wrong. Nor do you determine what other people "must" do. You have nothing to say about another person's body. Who do you think you are? And you already said you wanted it. No matter if you did it or not, you wanted it, so your mentality is "morally wrong" according to your own statements.

    What a person ends up doing isn't always the parents' fault. Besides, in my opinion an escort is much more respectable than a filthy snake manager who uses elbow grease to screw employees for career benefits. Yet, nobody asks "what if your son becomes a snake manager?". An escort doesn't hurt anyone. All she does is help guys who want sex without attacment. I can think of a thousand jobs that are more wrong than an escort. How about a typical scumbag attorney who defends the rapist of your daughter?

    Your view is solely based on reputation and ego of a parent. An escort isn't a bad person. She doesn't do anything wrong. I think you are too influenced by puritan culture.
     
  20. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex

    @rebooting, you accuse me of things I did not do. Just cause I stated my opinion does not mean I am deciding what is morally right. No, I am not anyway you look at it. If it's not right to judge an escort than it's not right to judge defense attorneys or snake managers.

    You cannot deny the following. The overwelming majority of women who do escorting do so as a last resort. Their self-esteem is so low they actually put a price on their body. (If this doesn't make sense to you, study female psychology) By partaking you are saying it is okay for a woman to do this. This cycle of women putting themselves so low is because you cant talk to a girl you like. You are indirectly fueling the porn industry to continue. Yes, seeing a prostitute is fueling the porn industry. shows demand.

    If I cant determine what guys "must" do than who can? That is like saying gary wilson should have never mentioned what guys "must" do in ybop.com to recover. Your arguments are so farfetched and brainwashed mainstream logic I hate to even be talking to you. But, I must remember most guys will almost never admit their addictions but defend it just like most guys defend porn.

    I bet you and fathomer have visited so many prostitutes you legally changed your first names to john.


    @rebooting, since you failed to respond to my post in a civilized manner but attacked me like crazy, I have done the same to you.

    I come to this forum for help. I am really hurting here. I want to get to the bottom of this. Your only credible argument "All she does is help guys who want sex without attacment". But, that is not a strong argument because it is better to get a fuck buddy than an escort because putting a price on a female is objectification(those arent my standards, it comes from the majority of women, I just recently learned of this). Please if you don't see it like me than write me strong arguments that are convincing. And, please don't attack me like in your last post. And, why are you so staunch about this matter? why not leave room for open mindedness(open mindedness means to not be strict on one viewpoint wholeheartedly).

    And, yes because we live in a society where objectification of women is so common, I too have an urge to do it. My current theory is we are in this porn addiction because we only think of women as sex objects. If we did the opposite we will heal faster. prove me wrong. Cause if you can prove me wrong, I am visiting a pstar escort tomorrow.
     
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