Comparing experiences with Cialis.

Discussion in 'Erectile Dysfunction / Delayed Ejaculation' started by frustratedman, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. frustratedman

    frustratedman New Member

    Now, I know some users are SUPER against boner pills. I will say I ONLY use them to actually have sex, never for MO, however I've developed some curiosities that I'd like to investigate with other users, as I know I'm not the only one who has used ED drugs. Now the main point is that Cialis DOES WORK FOR ME. If I take a cialis it will help me gets and maintain an erection like the ones I used to get before PMO, as well as help with my now unusually long refractory periods ( having sex in both the night and the next morning for example is def not possible for me most times without the drug.) Now, what's going on with PIED is that there's a dopamine receptor and low dopamine problem, so in theory, shouldn't drugs meant to work on your bloodflow have almost no effect if your brain still isn't getting signals to your dick to be excited? For those of us that successfully use Cialis, is this a sign that something OTHER than PMO is the root cause of our ED despite so many of the other PMO related symptoms,(I still have low libido, and when I use cialis to have sex, there have been instances where despite having a boner and getting laid I felt pretty "bored" about the situation.) Or maybe I'm mistaken, andthese drugs will help produce an erection despite not having a libido driving it. The other odd experience is that usually after using cialis, I'll find I'll have help with my erections and get some good morning wood after the 36 hours cialis is supposed to work for, in the past I convinced myself that this erection must be real and MOed it away, making it hard to determine in the following days if it had been cialis induced and the cialis wore off, or if the sex, or something else was triggering arousal and that by MOing the erection away I popped myself back in terms of progress.

    Anyway this time around I didn't MO my post cialis period erection this morning, so I'll try and report back on what the following days are like.

    So, guys who have been using ED drugs, what have your experiences been like? Comparable? Different? Has anyone used ED drugs and found they do nothing? Has anyone found that the effectiveness of ED drugs correlated to a problem other than PMO?
     
  2. pmofinnz

    pmofinnz New Member

    I have tried 20mg and 40mg cialis and 100mg and 200mg doses of viagra and was pure limpdick all those times I tried having sex. IDK seriously do I just have extreme performance and social anxiety or something. :mad:
     
  3. ghostrider

    ghostrider Member

    Yep, I used them. I think i might have mentioned it a few days ago to you in another thread that they worked for me but it's just not normal. For starters it feels strange, almost too hard sometimes. I didn't cum once in months on them during sex. When I did cum via oral etc, it doesn't feel right either. Not sure how to explain it but it's not like it should feel, for me anyway.

    Apart from that most times it gives you a headache and you just feel awful. I don't blame you for it but if you can, stay off them. You don't want to get hooked on them and I think it will be more beneficial in the long run not to use them.

    Each to their own mind you.
     
  4. freefrompmo

    freefrompmo New Member

    To answer your most important question in there, no, your ED is still likely caused by PMO. Dopamine occurs in "bursts" in your system. Most of us are still able to have the initial burst to get an erection, but often times lack the dopamine to stay interested and keep things going. So, as long as you have enough dopamine to initially get going and you understand how those drugs work, then you will understand exactly why you are successful but still bored. Repairing your dopamine receptors will allow you to have the "drive" you are looking for, keep at it.
     
  5. frustratedman

    frustratedman New Member

    OK! Yeah, that makes sense to me. That was my biggest concern, I found myself thinking "If the ED pills work, does that mean that my ED IS mechanical, and no brain related. Thanks for helping me clear this up.
     
  6. simkais7

    simkais7 New Member

    If you can't keep an erection these drugs can help but if you cannot get any hard then they just won't work.

    Anyway, before starting rebooting I used cialis but I experienced DE every time. Now (I'm two months in my reboot with some relapses) it works with no DE, rock hard erections and even short refractory period.

    Few times in the past it didn't work, I think when it happens it has to a lot to do with anxiety and obsessive thoughts (whether you will make it or not).
     
  7. susurrus

    susurrus Member

    I've also wondered whether the fact cialis works for me is a sign I don't have Pied. However, everyone is different and people have successfully rebooted while using cialis - therefore its effectiveness or lack of is not conclusive.

    Also it worsened my DE.
     
  8. zurich123

    zurich123 New Member

    Another data point here from a 39 year old man. Cialis does work for me as well. I can get hard without Cialis, but I cannot sustain it for long.

    Here is the funny thing though. Even though I got hard with Cialis, I find that I still go soft when trying to have sex with condoms. Yes, the condom made my boner go soft. This is common. From searching on the internet, a lot of guys do go soft with condoms. It takes practice to have sex with condoms apparently.

    But long term, I think my problems are still psychological AND hormonal. I have low testosterone. I have not used Cialias nor have I tried to have sex in the past few months. I want to complete the reboot process before resorting to drugs. Not to mention raise my testosterone naturally with exercise and a healthy diet.

    I have nothing against Cialias. But I think it's strictly something to be used only for special occasions.

    zurich123
     
  9. hollow

    hollow Lost & Found

    thanks for such amazing reply .. now i understood alot about the PIED .. & if cialis can work for me or not :)
     
  10. ted93704

    ted93704 Keep Your Heads Up!

    Cialis worked for getting hard but I had a major case of Delayed Ejaculatino
     
  11. timso14

    timso14 New Member

    I have used Cialis in the past, but only when my doctor gave me a couple of tablets for free, they worked successfully, however I got stuffy nose side effects for the time I'm on them, so I have prefered viagra as they are also cheaper tablets.

    I have been using viagra on a regular basis with my girlfriend for 6 months now, trying to taper off them but I have seen slow progress, such as gone from less that quarter of a pill to a lower amount however then failed, so I'm currently around half to a quarter of a 100mg tablet, depending on the frequency of sex, if having sex on consecutive days after a few days off sex, I would use quarter of a pill, then the next day half a pill. I have not PMO'd for 8 months and have only MO twice in that period. Unfurtunately I only discovered PIED when I got with my girlfriend who was against an abstinence period from O, I'm hoping I will become cured soon, however having a girlfriend has helped me eliminate my desire for PMO.
     
  12. hollow

    hollow Lost & Found

    its first time to hear about 100 mg cialis tablet ! .. are u sure u mean 100 or just 10 ?
     
  13. Oops

    Oops New Member

    I just recently discovered Cialis or (Tada!...lafil. Still makes me smile :))

    For me I found that it cured the ED (rock hard for hours on 20mg) but I still experienced delayed/no O. Had sex 3 times that night and was only able to O on the last one. And then twice again the next night but no O. For me though, this was no big deal as the girl fucking loved it! She reported a 5 hour orgasm :D

    I imagine it was a bit hyperbolic but I'm still so stoked about that haha. It had been so long since I O'd during sex and it improved my mood and self-confidence so much that I refuse to believe it's a bad thing to be taking them and will make sure I have one handy for every future sexual encounter until it is no longer necessary. My two cents.
     
  14. Mart71

    Mart71 Guest

    He is talking about taking Viagra in the second paragraph. ;-)
     
  15. hollow

    hollow Lost & Found

    I tried using 10 mg cialis last night with my girl

    already had spontaneous erections before taking the pill .. when i took it i felt tired & so sweaty & i penetrated for few seconds then got limb when she told me u doing it too hard .. i felt my erection not full, thats why i was doing hard to save erection

    i felt too bad & told her about everything but she was a bit drunk .. its a hassle, when the one u love ask u for sex & u say i cant ! :'(

    i felt anxious .. however i had erections in bed later & on morning, but i wasnt willing to try piv again, cause of fear of 2nd failure !

    i dunno what to do .. the feeling of these second of piv are still hesitating my brain btw .. i felt with weird feeling (amusement in particular)

    however my main problem before trying piv this night .. was my usual problem, i am not interested in piv anymore .. just like fooling around thats why i get hard all night & lose it when asked for having sex

    i told her everything next day morning .. cried badly between her arms .. she seemed understanding .. but its damn bad to feel yourself losing your muscularity infront of ur girl :(

    i feel i fucked up myself ! .. had such negative impact of ED pills, & i havent had sex !

    so feeling bad & dunno what to do :'(
     
  16. Mart71

    Mart71 Guest

    Uggh hollow, the best thing would be to keep trying and obviously not hurting her (which is often just a matter of angle and if she is prepared/horny enough).

    Though if you say, you don't even enjoy PIV no more, then I actually don't know what to say. : / Just this, I once cried as well - in my case after I couldn't feel a bj anymore.
     
  17. hollow

    hollow Lost & Found

    this is my problem with PIED .. i get erections but not interested in piv .. my sexual satisfaction comes through PMO .. spontantenous erections while playing i think happens cause i am so emotional & love fooling around

    man i am so down & crying now .. but to be honest, there are positive signs

    1-first time to piv since 8 yrs !! (even if for seconds .. but already my progress is only 25 days .. compared to 12 yrs of watching P)
    2-I am so enjoying touching her
    3-seconds of sex where amusing .. i can feel a shock in both my organ & brain till the moment
    4-organ looks healthy & sensitivity increasing significantly (man1 man oil is working well)

    it just hurts to feel not able to satisfy the girl you love :'( .. if she was a prostitute for example i would be happy with slight positive signs & forget about whole night

    she seems understanding .. but i doubt she can not feel bored if it would need me long time to have healthy sex !

    also, whats worrying me .. later on if i ll try .. should i take cialis again .. or i dont need it as long as it hasnt worked .. & i have to try by my own self ?
     
  18. Mart71

    Mart71 Guest

    Cialis works best, if you take it daily.

    However you lost the erection because of stress, anxiety and lack of pleasure. Cialis is known to be unreliable in these situations, so I am not surprised.

    Personally, I'd take what I have and go slow with the sex, like just put the tip in and try to feel it - instead of starting to thrust away. But that is of course easier said than done, I've been there myself.

    Good Luck
     
  19. hollow

    hollow Lost & Found

    thanks for your reply

    i can understand most of what u mentioned .. it make sense .. & actually there wont be pressure again

    i told my girl everything about my pied, if she will be near she wont expect me to perform soon .. if she gonna fade away, then i wont be pressured to have sex till i feel i am okay

    but according to your experience, should i use cialis again when she is with me? (even if i dont mention we gonna have sex, just leave it to the second, maybe i feel myself ready) .. or as long as it doesnt work i should stop it

    btw yesterday i felt its harms were more than its benefits .. i turned so tired, sweaty & feeling myself unusual .. however i already had good erection before willing to have sex .. just took the pill to maintain erection & it hasnt worked

    second question .. u mentioned u were there yourself, how long it took u to have sex again? .. plz mention ur age & addiction history too

    thanks
     
  20. Canuck99

    Canuck99 New Member

    I am planning on giving it a shot in a month or so. I am aiming to break the PMO/MO thing entirely obviously, but I want to have sex and plan on using Cialis as a bridge. As long as I stay away from PMO, my brain will heal anyways. I can't wait 6 or 9 months or a year or whatever.

    I can get it up, through touch and no fantasizing, it just comes down right away, so in Theory, Cialis should work.

    My only concern is possible side effects, so before I try it with my girlfriend, I am probably going to take the 2.5mg tablets for a few days and see what happens. If it gives me Side Effects (unless mild) I wont use it, but the main thing is I don't want to go into this without knowing the affects on me first. I am not going to go pop a 10 or 20mg tablet.

    Right now I am scared to try it, having read all sorts of side effects for it that scare the shit out of me, but I know that is my anxiety working.
     

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