I'm off porn for 6 days now on the latest streak with only 1 relapse in 2 weeks, I still can't keep it up for vaginal sex with a condom though. I can be rock hard just kissing her and cuddling and even a hand job feels amazing, but as soon as I go for vaginal sex I just lose it. It's odd because oral sex with a condom was actually over stimulating. I'm thinking vaginas (particularly well traveled ones) just aren't all that stimulating with a condom. Like even if you only masturbated a few times a week it seems to be enough to desensitize yourself to vaginal sex with a condom. The best part of a vagina is the feeling of warmth, wetness, and friction, condoms just destroy that sensation. I can get and stay hard without porn when using a subtle fleshlight and a doggystyle mount, so I don't think this is entirely pied. Does anyone have any success with occasional use of boner pills? I read a few accounts that heavy porn addicts don't benefit from them, but my relapses are few and far between these days, it's not like I'm binging every day. I think people might be blowing all of this pied stuff a bit out of proportion. Yeah if you are severely addicted to porn and masturbating every day I can see how that will cause problems, but a lot of the guys who watch porn every few days are probably just confusing pied with virgin performance anxiety and the sheer blandness of vaginal sex with a condom. If you can really go for weeks at a time without masturbating just so you can have enjoyable sex with a condom than I guess that's great for you, but I certainly don't have access to sex multiple times a week so I need something else in between to maintain my sanity, especially while fighting off porn cravings. You guys who only ever have sex and don't pmo/mo, are you able to tell me with a straight face that sex feels great every time using a condom? My guess is that most of these guys are fucking without condoms, (and hopefully not just trusting that she'll take the BC pill if you have any brains in your larger head).
You're answering your own question there. If you find oral sex with a condom "over stimulating" and "I can be rock hard just kissing her" then there's no issue with your penis or the quality of experience wearing a condom. You're most likely suffering from performance anxiety that triggers at the precise moment you go for sex. Medication like viagra won't help you - all these do is thin the blood so that you get an erection easier, which is not the problem you have. The problem is a mental, rather than physical, one.
Try using a Cialis once or a Viagra and see what happens. Jake Lamotta had this same problem whenever he tried to bone a new girl...he'd lose his erection..took him a while to figure out that he had to get to know the girl before he could bone her.
Is this a thing? people that suffer from getting to know the partner before being able to having sex? thats scary in a way... not being able to one night stands
I kind of agree Mik2. I was using condoms for nearly 20 years with my wife. I think I first noticed a problem when I'd lose my boner trying to put on a condom which isn't totally odd, but I think too much MO and PMO was certainly contributing. That kind of added to performance anxiety, less excitement, and just made the issue worse. Then I got a vasectomy. I thought, "no more condoms, problem solved." But then I found that I was was rock hard until I entered her. On one hand it felt 10x better, on the other hand the sensation caused me to go limp pretty quickly. The soft, warm, wet sensation of a V was nothing like the dry grip of condom or hand. At the risk of getting graphic. I even tested this theory by warm lubricating my and one time and simulating the pressure and feeling of entry with my fingers. I couldn't MO with the lube. As soon as I tried, I went limp. So I cut out PMO and MO, and took Cialis which kept me rock hard though sex. I did that about 10 times (sex with Cialis.) Then I forgot to take the pill and realized I was able to go without it just fine. I guess I had trained my brain and penis to have sex with a real V without a condom. What also happened is that sex was great while on the boner pills. Sex had obviously started to get a little disappointing with my problems so excitement was at an all-time low. But when I was able to do it for a good run giving her plenty of orgasms, it was really rewarding, exciting, and so each sexual encounter became more exciting and thus more stimulating to me. Years before this I was able to get her pregnant doing unprotected sex for months, so I didn't always have this problem. Something happened between then and when I had my "PIED issue" which coincided with the vasectomy and way too much PMO. So I think there's a combination of factors here. You do need to get off the porn. You do need to stop MO constantly (I think occasionally is good for you,) and some of it is a lot of anxiety over having sex with or in a way you're not used to. Guys on here are all over the map with their combinations of issues. But in some cases it's not just, all, or even mostly pied.
I'll have to respectfully disagree with some of this and agree with other aspects. I do agree that vaginas take some getting used to, and I do agree that condoms suck. I also agree that it is very difficult to keep it up the first time with a new girl, definitely more performance anxiety than pied. These days porn does seem to effect me the same way, I can take a day or two off and have an intense natural sex drive with woman. I quite prefer real women to porn but escorts are expensive and I'm having trouble finding a girlfriend at the moment, so I've been watching porn every other day. A couple of things I've found useful is to always apply oil before masturbating (for the uncut gents), and to alternate with a fleshlight. The biggest thing is avoiding desensitization via irration/dry death grip, and getting used to the feel of a real vagina. Vaginal sex with condoms honestly hasn't been worth it to me these days and I've tried it enough times to know I'm not missing much. I'd much rather finish with a nice bare blowjob or in between a large pair of breasts You also have to consider that circumcision can seriously affect sensitivity, so it doesn't do much good to just blame porn for everything and call it a day, ed is definitely a complex and often multilayered issue. Cutting down on porn and avoiding extreme categories is a good call, but in my experience that only goes so far.
Its true I do have to agree with you about the condoms, they definitely destroy some of the true raw sensations that sex gives. Even the thinnest condoms (although they carry a higher risk of breaking) don't live up to the claims of "feeling like there's nothing there". Most of the times this is pretty annoying since the moment I slip a condom on just the feeling of having a condom on itself turns me off now.
Yup, I also find it ironic that people say race and dick size is just a racist stereotype. If it's just a stereo type, why can't I find any "xl" asian condoms larger than my pinky finger I only bring it up because japan makes the worlds thinnest condoms, which also seem to break a lot, but that's probably due to wearing undersized condoms.
That's interesting! Yeah I probably wouldn't recommend any of those types of condoms. Better to be safe than sorry. It's a different situation for me though since for medical reasons my girlfriend shouldn't be on any form of birth control since it messes up hormone levels so I end up having to unfortunately use a condom. However I've been looking around and doing some research to see what could help and it seems like the best option out there are to look for some medications for this type of ED. Many of them are highly biased either left or right but neutral ones for example http://pillrankings.com/manforce-review-no-side-effects-reported-consumers/ have unbiased and detailed rankings on ED drugs so I think I'm going to go with this approach and see for myself!
