Body Language

Discussion in 'Social Advice' started by Pedigree, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. ted93704

    ted93704 Keep Your Heads Up!

    Touching a woman who hasnt touched you first is jumping the gun my man. What are you afraid of? Stop fearing rejection. Let them come to you. Its better that way. If they dont touch you first its a sign of lack of interest. Women test men all the time, we need to learn to start testing them and qualifying out hte users, takers, and baby wanters.
     
  2. ted93704

    ted93704 Keep Your Heads Up!

    If a man meets a woman and passes her physical attraction test with flying colors he will not lose her interest very easily. Women are just as superfical as men. Trust me on this one guys. If you barely pass her physical attraction test then you have some selling to do. You have to raise her interest level in you by being different. Keep it light and funny..no heavy subjects, no put downs..stay positive and upbeat..dont look at the waitresses legs..loook in her eyes and focus on getting to know her. Guys touch first out of insecurity and neediness. Get a grip on yourself men (that may be the worse unintended pun on a no fapping site EVER in the history of no fapping sites..LOL)
     
  3. rcfergie5

    rcfergie5 Guest

    You have no idea what I just said... I didn't mean I'm afraid of rejection! Your opinion doesn't apply to everybody, including me. It might be better for you to wait for them to come to you, but I would much rather learn to approach them.

    And by the way, I'll touch them and see what they're reaction is. Yeah, if they don't touch you, it's a sign of disinterest, and women test men all the time. But please, don't try to project your own beliefs on us men. It's not cool.
     
  4. ted93704

    ted93704 Keep Your Heads Up!

    Im just telling you the facts man. Go ahead and touch women. I"m telling you its better to let them touch you. 99% of all men touch women first and come on too strong. Men are nubbs when it comes to women. They have no clue what they are doing. My advice (which you desperately need) is to just learn to enjoy talking to a woman. Learn how to make them laugh. Keep your hands to yourself. Even your penis doesnt want you touching it. Learn to keep your damn hands to yourself boy!
     
  5. ForeverAlone

    ForeverAlone Guest

    The idea is to touch them only when you've gauged that their interest level in you is high enough. You do not touch them unless you know they are interested in you, obviously, otherwise you may offend them or come across as creepy. But touching them is the way to take the relationship to the next level and escalate the interaction from a friendly one to a sexual one: which is how we prevent ourselves from becoming 'friend zoned'. I myself only touch the woman when I know she is interested in me: she is smiling/has good eye contact/positive body language that signals attraction.

    In my honest opinion: letting her touch you first is sound, because she is escalating the sexual vibe, but you she will only touch you first if she is attracted to you at a sexual level already, but you can also touch her first as well to escalate, ONLY if she is attracted at a sexual level, otherwise she will feel uncomfortable. The simple fact is that either party can escalate the sexual vibe of the interaction by touching, but in my experience, its only effective if the opposite party is already attracted.


    Again, you are free to rant and troll against this, as you no doubt will anyway. I just wanted to get my point across.
     
  6. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden We just had a near-life experience, fellas

    I think there is no need to break this down into an exact science (although I think you can if you want). I think that you could nit pick all day about little things in body language (and most of them have point, I mean there is a reason why pretty much every model uses Michelangelo's David stance the most). Unless you want to look deeply into it I would say to stand in a way that makes you feel comfortable and confident which will radiate comfort and confidence more then trying hard to do another stance. (Pointed out in a good anecdote in this blog post: http://jackgoesforth.blogspot.com.au/2008/12/how-not-to-pick-up-girls-part-234.html )

    More directed at your exact stance, I have always found that when I am talking to a man and they hold their hands behind their back with their chest out to be a very condescending stance - on top of this I feel condescending when I do it and I feel it is condescending when I see it in a third person interaction. I would probably be able to rationalize a reason for this, but who cares? If possible I think the best thing to do with you hands is not think about them and they will drop to your sides (neutral is always a good position), its only when you start thinking about them they they become a problem (thats why I always like holding a drink if possible). That being said, better to stand with your hands behind you, or arms folded then fidgeting in my opinion.
     
  7. rcfergie5

    rcfergie5 Guest

    Thank you! That's the point I've been trying to make..
     
  8. rcfergie5

    rcfergie5 Guest

    You passive-agressive fuck, what the fuck kind of advice was that? You didn't help me one bit, you just rubbed it in my face, by making it as if I don't have any game whatsoever. Guys are nubbs, not men. You're indeed a guy. At least I'm man enough to know that touching them will work if they're only sexually interested in you like Loss2Boss said. Sure I'll allow them to touch me if we want to escalate our sexual vibe, but "keep your hands to yourself" is a shit advice, because I know from experience that didn't get me anywhere, to put it another way, I still couldn't attract women even if I didn't touch them. Desperately needing your advice? Ha! I already know how to make a lady laugh and enjoy her company, so back off, man. And btw, maybe I'm having a hard time with women sometimes, because I'm depressed thanks to MO. Everytime I finished masturbating, my confidence drops. Maybe I'd be much better with the ladies had I gave up masturbation as soon as I gave up porn. Maybe I don't know what you know about seduction. "Oh, I'm Ted. Let me give you advice on how to be an asshole like myself. Keep your hands to yourself. And learn to become attractive to women." okay, Jesus Christ of Seduction, how exactly do I "learn to" do that? You know what? Unless you grow some balls, wise up and learn to sexually touch a woman, Don't even bother giving me advice again. You got it? End of discussion.
     
  9. TheUnderdog

    TheUnderdog Active Member Staff Member

    LOL @ waiting before the woman touches you before touching her

    I'm no expert, but if there's one thing I know is that being passive will lead you nowhere.

    This whole "Don't show interest before she shows interest" bullshit is the worst advice that ever came out of the PUA community.
     
  10. ForeverAlone

    ForeverAlone Guest

    The only exception of that rule is that if she already likes you enough first to escalate the sexual vibe, by touching you first. If not, touching her is the only way to ignite the flame.
     
  11. spyrol

    spyrol Guest

    Here is a website with a lot of ressources on body language. I haven't read it all yet but I have to. There is a lot to learn :
    http://westsidetoastmasters.com/resources/book_of_body_language/toc.html
     
  12. WaveRace

    WaveRace New Member

    Body language is so complex and yet so simple. I have been learning more about my own and how to read women.

    Seems like so many of us (not saying everyone) are becoming numb and atrophied in regards to picking up on courtship cues. Women give off tons of messages. More so then men I have read.
     

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