Back in Withdrawals - Is it normal to get withdrawals from pmoing 4 times within 6 months?

Discussion in 'Pornography Addiction' started by auzzie_mikey, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. auzzie_mikey

    auzzie_mikey Active Member

    Hey guys. I'm back in Withdrawals again. Heavy brain fog, depersonalisation, low motivation, feel sleepy all the time and Social awkwardness is there. I only PMOed 4 times between 1st August 2018 and 1st February 2019.... and still getting heavy withdrawals now. Is it normal to get withdrawals from pmoing 4 times within 6 months?
     
  2. Freedom from Servitude

    Freedom from Servitude Active Member

    Hi Mikey, I can't say that for sure as I haven't been there myself. I'm sorry to hear of your relapses. The reason that I am commenting on your post is that I am intrigued as to how you know for sure that whatever symptoms you are getting are as a result of those times you have PMO'd? What kind of symptoms are you getting?

    I say this because, at over two and a half years of no PMO and MO that the improvements in my mental health has come from tangible changes I have made to my life and self-help techniques I have tried.
     
  3. Big Lebowski

    Big Lebowski Member

    Man, you will be in withdrawal continuously until you cut out porn completely. PMO’ing has always set my clock back. You have to cut it it out man, indefinitely, if you want to recover.
     
  4. -Luke-

    -Luke- Active Member

    In 2017 I was a little over a year without PMO. Even after 250 days I had some heavy withdrawal symptoms for about two weeks. And from what I read in the last few years this happened to other guys too after a long abstinence. I think this is called post acute withdrawal symptoms (PAWS).

    I guess it depends on your history with porn. If you started young and watched porn for a long time, the withdrawals can hit you even after a long time of not watching porn.
     
  5. auzzie_mikey

    auzzie_mikey Active Member

    The symptoms that I get are brain fog, depersonalisation, low motivation, low energy and very lazy. I really think its due to no PMO
     
  6. auzzie_mikey

    auzzie_mikey Active Member

    so true man... I have to cut it out completely to avoid withdrawals... But if I've relapsed 4 times in 6 months how long should my withdrawals last? I don't think theyll last 90 days. im maybe thinking 1 month withdrawals. . what do you think?

    Are you still suffering from withdrawals?
     
  7. Perigee

    Perigee Member

    I refuse to believe you could get withdrawals after all that time.

    Simply cutting out PMO in your life isn't enough. Symptoms like anhedonia, amotivation, social anxiety, and brain fog are not exclusive to PMO withdrawals. There are other hedonistic and short-term gratifications that can cause similar problems (drugs, youtube, social media, video games, etc). It can also be caused by poor lifestyle factors such as lack of exercise and sleep.
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2019
  8. Big Lebowski

    Big Lebowski Member

    Post acute withdrawals can go on for two years, altruism247 was still recovering over 2.5 years.
     
  9. Perigee

    Perigee Member

    That's surprising, read this from article: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/reb...awal-syndrome-paws-occur-with-porn-addiction/

    "Probably the most important thing to understand about post-acute withdrawal is its prolonged duration, which can last up to 2 years [1,20]. The danger is that the symptoms tend to come and go. It is not unusual to have no symptoms for 1 to 2 weeks, only to get hit again [1]. This is when people are at risk of relapse, when they are unprepared for the protracted nature of post-acute withdrawal. Clinical experience has shown that when clients struggle with post-acute withdrawal, they tend to catastrophize their chances of recovery. They think that they are not making progress. The cognitive challenge is to encourage clients to measure their progress month-to-month rather than day-to-day or week-to-week."
     
  10. Freedom from Servitude

    Freedom from Servitude Active Member

    Given what you have shared, Mikey. I think its possible that it could be PAWS. 4 relapses with only 6 months or so of sobriety probably will set you back a little. That's not to discredit your achievement because six months is a very long time in recovery terms, but, as has already been posted here, the PAWS can go on for a long while. Remember though you haven't gone back to where you were 6 months ago in recovery terms. Just try and contain the relapses and you can build on the progress already made.

    I am personally a bit sceptical with the PAWS narrative, but that's only because my experience of recovery doesn't seem to fit that very well, so while I acknowledge that it could be affecting me on some level, I don't put too much significance behind that possibility. If you are committed to abstinence there is nothing that you can do to stop the PAWS, just focus on the self-help techniques that can help you cope with them. In time they will pass.
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2019
  11. Freedom from Servitude

    Freedom from Servitude Active Member


    I agree, PMO shouldn't be seen as the only issue here. We know that PMO can create issues, but it largely occurs because of an imbalance in our lives. Working on tackling issues, and improving our situation will help overcome the addiction and vise versa.
     

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