I'm sure I could have written this not long ago. The learning process is no PMO and for me no MO, probably for you, too. Those are simple rules/truths to live by. We have to believe in the process and not try and reinvent the wheel. No PMO, no fap, end of story. This begins the revolution within us. When men and women are in a sexless marriage they often start behaving like singles. So, it's not surprising that unsavory habits arise. She doesn't need to be sexy for you, nor you for her. This is what it was like for my wife and I. Sometimes I found her disgusting and I'm sure she felt the same about me. The no PMO/no fap journey is about us. However, the awesome thing is that as we change the perception of our SO's changes, as well. I NEVER thought I would, nor could, be intimate with my wife again. Finding this forum changed all that. One week in the bag is awesome!!