From experience it is MUCH worse. It is real, there's guilt, shame & emptiness as you leave, potential bad consequences etc. But I guess it depends on the reasons why you do it, many go due to loneliness and depression and that is not helpful at all.
Haven't been posting in a while but I still haven't watched porn which is good. Currently I've overinflated anxiety over work events again and urges are quite strong to watch porn/have casual sex but I will find better outlets. Nofap isn't the solution to everything like it's sometimes put by some people. For example if someone would be scared of spiders, why should nofap change that.
Hey man!! Glad to see you back here! Don't fall into the temptation of porn, it's simply not worth it!! Work can sometimes be stressful, and that's just part of life. Maybe go see some friends? You're 100% right that nofap is not a solution for everything!!
Thanks Toby! I won't watch porn, anyhow I'm more thinking about real sex. My wife and I were both too stressed out recently to get together, so that's a point I will work on. I've met a lot of friends in the past days. Now I'm looking forward to spend some more time with my kid and do some sports.
I have to weigh in here. Finally seeing sex workers made me realize everything right and wrong with my body. Insecurities so stupid in hindsight I cant even believe. Yet I carried them for all my life until this summer. Becoming more confident in bed is atleast for me a key aspect in having balls to flirt with women who can easily have sex 7 days of the week if they wish. Also discovering my PIED-problem, and later and very recently DE-problem Both of which are progressing in the right direction. All because of sex workers. Given, I do it in countries where it's legal and try to always see women who offer gfe. That alone puts a filter on accidently coming in contact with trafficking and the women who generally hate their job...
If it helps in your case, then it's good. As I said it depends on why you go there. gfe is probably also the best way to go at it if you feel like you cannot have a regular relationship yet. If it becomes something you crave and want to do over and over again, then this can stand in the way of finding a real partner. Because then you'd have to give up the escorts. Some go to escorts to live out their porn induced fetishes and I don't see how that would be helpful to the recovery but that's not what you're doing.
Kind of agree with ya. I have to be honest and say, I have a bunch of porn-induced fantasies. Almost all of them have proven to be better left as fantasies. Still, for me, it's been good to have been there and done that. Now it's out of the brain. Still have a few left tho. Craving a gf becomes worse for me after every visit. 1-2h really flies....and since I have 0 options of professionals where I live I guess I'm semi-protected against making this a new addiction in place of PMO
awesome consider urself lucky and unlucky at the same time. I think its fine to use a professional but the problem is when we rely on them which is the case for me. I have relied on them to the point I ignored real life women.
It happens within the years we escalate and escalate through the porn categories and then eventually end up with some fetish shit. Without porn that would've never happened. I did try out some stuff and I told myself before I'll do it to know if I actually like it or not. I did it and I didn't enjoy it, so afterwards I was like OK I got my answer but then shortly after I started craving it again. The desire for the fetish will never completely fade for me but I'm OK not acting on it. I'm glad I left that behind.
day 1 - 3:19 pm saturday. 9/9/23. I PMO'd but mainly to fantasy but I am so glad I did. I was not in a flatline, I was not experiencing any superpowers I was just burdening myself by holding on. As a matter of fact, I feel so much more relaxed and feel better mentally now. I have so much to write about and Ill do just that in a bit.
day 1 - 6:40pm saturday 9/9/23 - The slippery slope won. I just done a full blown relapse. Artificial gratification is my chief problem. However, the serotonins are calming me down so well and i'm so much more relaxed. I always wanted to do this thing to get better with girls by gaining the confidence to approach and talk to them. But, with this streak that didn't help. its because i don't need this streak thing to achieve that. I use it as an excuse to approach at a "better time when i'm more attuned". As a matter of fact, I consume internet porn and have a proclivity to pmo because I dont approach women enough and sleep with them. Im good as I am now!
@hope2overcome Hang in there man. Think about what porn has done to you. Everytime I get the smallest thought of it, I remind myself and I am instantly disgusted. It stops a small urge into becoming a fullblown craving. Supereffective for me atleast.
How are you feeling today? I entered a new flatline after I PMO'd over 2 months ago. Sounds like you're keeping yourself calm though which is good! Shit happens and sometimes we fail, we get up and keep moving Keep the motivation to get better with girls up, you'll get there!! I was out this weekend I talked to several girls and was quite baffled at how good it went haha! Keep it up man!
day 1 - like at 10pm, i forgot. Awesome news. I dont really care to watch porn anymore. i can freely surf the internet and enjoy it without wanting to watch porn. What was the ultimate awakening of this? The fact that i got over my fears of approaching and conversing with women at bars. I am trying to transform that into approaching at the day time. And, when that happens my life will be completely transformed. ofc the last streak i was in helped a ton also. Edit: Even now, I would have compulsively watched porn and surfed through every adult side like a heroin addict. But, now? very little desire. I can feel the temptation or craving in the background but its so minimal and that I can control it. I just don't let my mind wander and try to explore that sentiment anymore. And, thats been the ultimate key.
edit: Damn I feel good. I have no urge to watch porn. On twitter some images and videos did pop up and it did compell me. but for a tiny bit. Im done with this shit. Im going out tonight to meet women. I will go 100%. No more dipping my toes. I need to learn to turn it up and be 100% present and to give it my all. It isn't enough that im doing something 80% of guys don't do but I need the results. I need to get numbers and actually get a text back. Also I need to actually text them too. I think I only texted like 20% of the girls I got a number from. And, this was completely random. Its like I don't take girls I meet at bars seriously. I don't because they have their guard up real high. And, I do use it to fuel my daytime approaching even though I haven't done it yet despite it helping. I just need good interactions and have fun. I need to do better in terms of results than I did the last time.
day 1 - 7pm 9/20/23 damn it appears im back on the relapse cycle. It starts with cravings and it drags me through the entire thing.
